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Cardinal Dolan Implies That Obama Lied to Him
Courageous Priest ^ | October 29, 2012 | Cardinal Timothy Dolan

Posted on 10/29/2012 11:47:43 PM PDT by Slyfox

Over the last six months or so, the Catholic Church in the United States has found itself in some tension with the executive branch of the federal government over a very grave issue: religious freedom. Can a government bureau, in this case the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), define for us or any faith community what is ministry and how it can be exercised? Can government also coerce the church to violate its conscience?

Obama had personally assured me that he would do nothing to impede the good work of the Church in health care, education, and charity, and that he considered the protection of conscience a sacred duty This has not been a fight of our choosing. We’d rather not be in it. We’d prefer to concentrate on the noble tasks of healing the sick, teaching our youth, and helping the poor, all now in jeopardy due to this bureaucratic intrusion into the internal life of the church. And we were doing all of those noble works rather well, I dare say, without these radical new mandates from the government. The Catholic Church in America has a long tradition of partnership with government and the wider community in the service of the sick, our children, our elders, and the poor at home and abroad. We’d sure rather be partnering than punching.

(Excerpt) Read more at courageouspriest.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: contraceptivemandate; dolan; obama; obamacare; religiousfreedom
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1 posted on 10/29/2012 11:47:49 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
Zero doesn’t tell the truth every hour.
2 posted on 10/29/2012 11:57:02 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Slyfox

The “trust” game played by political figures. Sadly, the public won’t have it any other way.

I know your heart is in the right place, Dolan. Make it right.


3 posted on 10/30/2012 12:03:39 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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The “trust” game played by political figures. Sadly, the public won’t have it any other way.

I know your heart is in the right place, Dolan. Make it right.


4 posted on 10/30/2012 12:05:20 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Slyfox

Is the cardinal an American?
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If so, then 0bama lied to him.


5 posted on 10/30/2012 12:11:58 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Slyfox

Another good man gets burned by the pathological liar in chief.


6 posted on 10/30/2012 12:29:23 AM PDT by Best and Brightest (So many, many top secrets guarded about the POTUS Obama. The truth is long overdue.)
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To: Slyfox

Odumbo is a pathological liar.

Liars lie. Easy concept, isn’t it, Cardinal?


7 posted on 10/30/2012 12:30:01 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Slyfox

My comment on the website:

Your Eminence,

You are dealing with the trees. Consider the forest.

I ask that you consider the possibility that this entire problem is not the result of the president going back on his word concerning an exemption for the protection of conscience, but rather from granting to the government in the first place the overwhelming power to dictate to businesses, organizations, and to individual American citizens specific health insurance requirements.

I pray that this experience will prod the Catholic hierarchy to reconsider your long held assumption that statism is an effective tool for Christian charity. I hope that it is now evident to you that once you invite the monster into the room, you cannot expect it to behave.

In Christ,
Jeff


8 posted on 10/30/2012 12:31:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Soebarkah Soetoro)
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To: Slyfox
Good grief. Has this man been deaf dumb and blind all his life. Now let US consider the busy hands in creating Obama’s health care. Teddy Kennedy, Bart Stupack, Nancy Pelouise, Kathleen Sebelius, former governor of Kansas, Joe Biden, Supreme Court Justice Roberts immediately come to mind. Anybody see a pattern.
9 posted on 10/30/2012 12:37:37 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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10 posted on 10/30/2012 1:53:02 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: jtal

I hear its OK for moslems to lie to further their agenda...


11 posted on 10/30/2012 3:10:57 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: Slyfox

I love Cardinal Dolan, but it seems to me that he is dancing around the subject here. What is it that Mozart’s patron said to him in the movie, Amadeus? “Too many notes.”

Well, Cadinal, respectfully, you are using too many words. You are famous for being straight forward and succinct. Rely on that ability now and just say it:

Obama lied.
Can Catholic schools, hospitals, & charities survive?
The verdict is still out.


12 posted on 10/30/2012 3:20:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Slyfox

Funny that the website is called “Courageous Priest”. This weak questioning of an oppressive government is hardly courageous, Cardinal Dolan.


13 posted on 10/30/2012 4:01:50 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: Slyfox

Cardinal Dolan....He DID lie to you!!! NEVER lay down with DOGS (Democrats) ...they LIE!


14 posted on 10/30/2012 4:03:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: arasina

Well, never in my 65 years of going to Mass have I ever heard any politics talked about...also in the bulletins every week, all about Freedom of Religion......they WOKE up!!


15 posted on 10/30/2012 4:06:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Slyfox
Cardinal Dolan, don't feel that you've been singled out by President Obama in any lies he may have told. Obama lies whenever his lips are moving. It's just what he does. The last time he lied about things, four Americans, including our ambassador to Libya died in a 7 hour terrorist attack that he was watching unfold in real time. Then he came out and he and his toadies lied to the American people for two solid weeks.
16 posted on 10/30/2012 4:21:53 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Just mythoughts

And don’t forget Tom Daschle. Isn’t he the one who wrote that the only way a healthcare bill would be passed would be to force it through quickly- before people had a chance to read it, realize what was in it and vote against it.


17 posted on 10/30/2012 4:46:29 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Slyfox
The Catholic Church in America has a long tradition of partnership with government and the wider community in the service of the sick, our children, our elders, and the poor at home and abroad. We’d sure rather be partnering than punching.

Well, there's your problem, jack@ss. You've climbed into bed with Caesar, only to find that he's hell-bent on imposing an agenda of radical secularism on you and everyone else who has ever "trusted" him.

Thirty pieces of silver will do it every time. I hope it was worth it.

18 posted on 10/30/2012 5:08:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Slyfox

Cardinal Dolan,

Obama doesn’t want YOUR CHARITIES, or anybody else’s, competing with HIS government VOTE BUYING programs!!


19 posted on 10/30/2012 5:11:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Spendid statement, Mr. Chandler. May it make straight passage from your keyboard to the minds of Cardinal Dolan and the often obtuse U.S. counsel of bishops.
20 posted on 10/30/2012 5:14:03 AM PDT by irish_links
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