Posted on 10/23/2012 6:20:52 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
A focus group of undecided voters appeared to be split over Mitt Romney's debate performance on foreign policy Monday night, with some saying he failed to distinguish how he would do things differently from President Barack Obama and others saying he finally came across as more "humane and relatable."
The group, appearing on Fox News' Sean Hannity show along with Republican strategist Frank Luntz, declared Obama the overall winner of the debate when the two candidates stuck strictly to foreign policy and military issues.
But when the debate veered into economic policy as a national security issue, most in the focus group said Romney was more credible than the president.
"Mitt Romney . . . is capable of taking this country and turning it around. And once we have that, we'll have more security. We need that security," said one woman in the group.
"The reality of the situation is foreign policy is secondary to our dreadful economy," a man in the group said. "And Mitt Romney has a plan to improve the economy. Obama does not."
"It's Obama's Achilles heel," added another group participant.
"Mitt Romney is aware that the economy is the major issue, so he keeps bringing it back to that because that is what appeals to most voters," another voter agreed.
In summing up the consensus view that seemed to emerge from the group, one man said, "I think the president did well tonight. I expected him to do well, he did well on the foreign policy. But I do agree it's not about the foreign policy in this election, it's just about the economy."
Asked to weigh in on how Romney came across to them in the debate, one woman voter offered this view: "Wall Street-driven. Certainly not a well-rounded leader."
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The black lady on the second row left side did not change her mind,and the blond front row right side did not change her mind....
Not so fast!! That group was made up largely of folks who voted for obama in 2008. Most of them plan to vote for Romney now and while the majority thought that obama 'won' the debate, Romney won their support. They were not impressed with obama's answers and nearly to a person think that the economy is the most important issue facing America and they give Romney a clear eand decided edge on hat score.
In this case I agree.
I think Obama will get more than 95% of the black vote. Where he will lag is turnout. Blacks are not going to vote for Romney the Republican and Mormon.
Well said. It bears repeating.
“HUMANE AND RELATABLE???? When Mitt Romney was chosen to be the GOP candidate, I was not excited because I really did not know anything about him and, as time went on the Democrats used that very lack of knowledge which was widespread, to demonize him, and to make a cartoon character out of him for months and months. I knew then that Mitt Romney was someone they feared..Now that I know who he is and what he is (gave away most of his income to charity and has been a humanitarian all his life), I see him as potentially one of our greatest Presidents if he gets the chance. He definitely has a complete grasp on ALL the problems we face both here and in Foreign Policy..HE TELLS THE TRUTH! He is not about demonizing Obama or the Democrat Party..He simply tells the truth and the chips fall where they may. America is burned up with envy and strife from a President who has spent his time in office dividing us, one from the other, and mostly through racism charges which is, to me, a great sin against our people as we are today. Mitt Romney is a man who loves his country, knows why and how we have achieved freedom and prosperity and he understands why politicians have wasted that freedom and that prosperity to bring us all to the brink of poverty and revolution. How this election could even be a contest in the mind of any American of any race is a mystery to me. We are human beings, on this planet at the same time in history and, to be sure, there are problems, but they are age old problems of ugly human nature which wants to enslave others and to pick and choose life’s winners. That kind of thing, run amok, will result in the same unimaginable horrors going on right now in Libia, Syria, Egypt and other parts of the world. If we do not care about what happens over there today, then tomorrow it will be on our doorstep. God, please give America a chance to right the wrongs and to keep the freedom you so graciously allowed us to have for 200+ years.”
You mean, uh, our Navy Corpse Men still carry, uh, bayonets?
Agree. The black vote won’t turnout like they did in 2008. This is no longer an “historic” election.
Obama hurt himself with those comments. He looked childish and unpresidential. President Clinton must have been face palming when O did that.
They were both Obama supporters. What is your point?
Absolutely. Black people aren't stupid. They have had more than their share of black politicians acting all smooth and then becoming complete failures once elected. This doesn't automatically mean that they will vote Republican. But it does mean that many of them will stay home on election day.
The church I am a member of is predominately black. Many of those I have talked to this election actually are pro-Romney. I would say probably 40% or so have acknowledged that Romney is the only choice. Four years ago, that wasn't the case.
That's my point. Blacks will not be voting for Romney, but many will not vote this time around.
"In 2004, John Kerry won 88 percent of the black vote, which made up 11 percent of the total electorate. In 2008, Obama won 95 percent of the black vote, which made up about 13 percent of the electorate. That means Obama’s increase in support relative to Kerry won him about 3.5 million extra votes, or nearly 40 percent of his total margin over John McCain.
This was a truly amazing feat, considering what we know about people’s voting habits. In particular, political scientists for generations have found that voting is highly correlated with socioeconomic status. About 61 percent of the white voting age population turned out to vote in 2004, compared to only 50 percent of the black voting age population.
But enthusiasm for Obama in 2008 among African Americans basically erased this underlying tendency: whites turned out at 62 percent; African Americans turned out at 60 percent."
Who was that genius blond with the too-red and too-big boobs in the lower right-hand corner? She balanced the rest of group all by herself, physically and mentally. I loved the lady who was a couple people down from her. She was all fired up with the facts and wanted to throw down with someone.
That should have been “too-red LIPS.”
The black lady on the second row near the end seemed like an Obama campaigner. She was ridiculous and sounded foolish. She was loud, obnoxious and had no idea what she was talking about. She said something like, “Romney needs to stay in the private sector” and the crowd about laughed her out of the room. Luntz seemed to want to get rid of her comments quickly. No way in heck she was ‘undecided.’
This group was a disaster. The last one was much better.
Bingo! We have these things, but Obama will not use them. I feel for the families of the men who were murdered in Libya. I would have nightmares each evening, were I in their shoes. The images are horrifying.
Believe it or not, I live in a rather heavily black populated area of the country and the few I have talked politics with are not that happy with Obummer these days....
Primarily because of “gay marriage”.
-PJ
It depends on how “not happy” translates into voting behavior. IMO very few would vote Romney.
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