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Fox News cost Mitt the debate [conservatives trapped in closed information feedback loop]
Salon ^ | October 20, 2012 | Jonathan Bernstein

Posted on 10/21/2012 2:04:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Romney stumbled on Libya because the GOP is reliant on a right-wing media machine that has no ideas, just scandals

Why did Mitt Romney embarrass himself on Libya in this week’s debate? One possibility: Because he, and the Republican Party in general, have opened up an alarming policy deficit between themselves and Barack Obama and the Democrats.

What I mean by that is that Romney, Republicans and conservatives have, in case after case, simply given up on crafting viable public policy. That wasn’t always the case. When Ronald Reagan took office, conservative think tanks were ready with a host of ideas for transforming what government did and the way it did it. As recently as the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush campaigned on, for example, No Child Left Behind and a faith-based initiative. Does Romney have anything similar he’s talking about during this campaign? Not that I’ve heard.

What he’s substituted for policy is scandal, on the one hand, and symbolism, on the other.

Republicans’ reliance on a scandal framework is most obvious in their attacks on Barack Obama. The stimulus is reduced in this point of view to “Solyndra.” Energy? One pipeline to Canada.

Most of the time, there’s almost no real attempt to construct an argument against actual policies, to treat government programs proposed by the president as policies that one might agree or disagree with. That’s not always true – a lot of the arguments against the Affordable Care Act, and some of the case against the stimulus, really were policy-based. But more often Republicans have tried to frame their attacks around scandal.

The other frame they’ve used, especially on foreign policy and national security, is pure symbolism. Often, as Paul Waldman pointed out this week, that’s reduced down to the level of individual words. It’s bad to apologize. It’s important to speak up for Iranian protesters.

It’s imperative to never, ever disagree with Israel. And Waldman missed the big one: It’s absolutely critical that the president always, always, no matter what, and in every possible way, refer to the United States as “exceptional.” Don’t forget: Many of the present generation of Republicans were trained by Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz to believe in the power of certain words. They may sincerely believe that public policy really does only consist of finding the words that will “force” opponents to fear them and allies to be comforted.

And so, scandal and symbolism became a trap that turned the disaster in Benghazi from an opportunity to score points for Mitt Romney into a fiasco.

How? First, because instead of questioning the policies – including the initial intervention – that brought the Obama administration to the death of an ambassador, the immediate instinct of the Romney Republicans was to turn it into scandal. A coverup! Barack Obama and the State Department said one thing in the immediate aftermath, but some of those things turned out to be wrong. Now, a less scandal-obsessed party might have either moved quickly past that seemingly unimportant discrepancy and focused on how the problem happened in the first place, or investigated whether initial chaos was a sign of mismanagement. But neither of those fits the scandal frame as well.

Meanwhile, the focus on symbolic words in lieu of policy played right into the scandal frame in this case. The administration was denying terrorism! Because, er, they didn’t use the word “terrorist.” Sure, they said “act of terror,” which to most of us sounds about the same, but that’s because most of us aren’t obsessively focused on the symbolic importance of using the correct words all the time as the main responsibility of the president with regard to foreign policy and national security.

Most of us, that is, who are not trapped within the conservative closed information feedback loop, where Solyndra and Fast and Furious were major Obama administration scandals, and where, as Paul Ryan put it in his debate with Joe Biden, it’s obvious that Obama’s foreign policy is unraveling “before our eyes” and “as we turn on our television screens these days.”

Of course, figuring out what any of that really means would take, well, some serious policy analysis. But that’s exactly what Mitt Romney and the Republicans just don’t have these days.

But at least they know they shouldn’t apologize for it!


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KEYWORDS: 2012election; change; dictates; policy
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To: GeronL
It's the liberal superstructure banding together (for the cause) to swamp truth with lies.
21 posted on 10/21/2012 3:07:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: American Constitutionalist

When the MSM tries to trip someone, they still call it a “stumble” even if their target manages to leap over their assailant’s outstretched foot and land a crushing karate chop to the throat.


22 posted on 10/21/2012 3:14:50 AM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: nathanbedford
"I prefer to get my news unfiltered...."

That of course is impossible unless you personally observe every event you consider newsworthy. You are always subjected to the filter of the publisher & author, whether it be conservative or liberal. Most stories in the media consist of some stated facts and commentary on these facts. The key is to seperate the two (often no easy task) and determine the credibilty and reliability of what is presented as fact. Then one can draw their own conclusions and determine if the commentary presented is reasonable.

23 posted on 10/21/2012 3:21:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will always be blind-sided by the sheer malice of the left

Malice...and deviousness. All's fair, in their minds, because their cause is so righteous.

From Stalin and Mao to the local Dem party worker, every one of them has always viewed their every horrible action through this defective moral prism.

24 posted on 10/21/2012 3:21:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: nathanbedford
"I prefer to get my news unfiltered...."

That of course is impossible unless you personally observe every event you consider newsworthy. You are always subjected to the filter of the publisher & author, whether it be conservative or liberal. Most stories in the media consist of some stated facts and commentary on these facts. The key is to seperate the two (often no easy task) and determine the credibilty and reliability of what is presented as fact. Then one can draw their own conclusions and determine if the commentary presented is reasonable.

25 posted on 10/21/2012 3:22:37 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney lost the debate but rises in the polls. Don’t let these people have matches or sharp pointy objects.


26 posted on 10/21/2012 3:42:15 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mitt won... kind of takes the wind out of this piece doesn’t it?!

LLS


27 posted on 10/21/2012 4:03:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jonathan, one part of the debate Romney surely won was foreign policy. He bombed obama 2 to 1 in various polls.


28 posted on 10/21/2012 4:10:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Huh? What planet is this guy on?


29 posted on 10/21/2012 4:13:31 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: livius
Leftists ALWAYS speak for the masses - and OWN the facts.

"MOST"

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"Republicans’ reliance on a scandal framework is most obvious in their attacks on Barack Obama"

"Sure, they said “act of terror,” which to most of us sounds about the same, but that’s because most of us aren’t obsessively focused on the symbolic importance of using the correct words all the time as the main responsibility of the president with regard to foreign policy and national security."

"Most of us, that is, who are not trapped within the conservative closed information feedback loop,..."

30 posted on 10/21/2012 4:16:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s often interesting to see how the other side views things. Good post. I do believe, however, that it is customary to put “Barf Alert” in the title to warn off those who don’t have strong stomachs.


31 posted on 10/21/2012 4:18:12 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Rocky

:)

If you’re on FR and don’t have thick skins or strong stomachs, you need to get ‘em fast.


32 posted on 10/21/2012 4:21:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Fox News cost Mitt the debate


Are they talking about the debate that has not yet taken place? Isn’t it a bit early to call it for Obama?


33 posted on 10/21/2012 4:26:05 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I can’t believe I clicked on that link. I was turned off from the point this hack wrote “...that Romney, Republicans and conservatives have, in case after case, simply given up on crafting viable public policy.”

Could this guy ever figure out that government is not the panacea and answer to all ills in the world and maybe “public policy” is not the answer in the first place?

I guess such a thought can not cross the mind of the “statist”.

JoMa


34 posted on 10/21/2012 4:33:45 AM PDT by joma89
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But, Mitt was accurate, OBAMA lied. The self-adoring Crowley screwed things up and admitted she was wrong - but the next morning when most of the previous night’s viewers didn’t hear her.


35 posted on 10/21/2012 4:37:58 AM PDT by Best and Brightest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Crap like this is why liberals are perverse and evil.


36 posted on 10/21/2012 4:39:24 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Romney pinned the tag team of Bammy and Candy on Libya.

Mitt was right, they were wrong. Post debate analysis of the incident is devastating for the libs. Candy looked to be a lame stream media JounrOhack who likely was in on the Obama scheme to spin his Benghazi failure with this laughable lie should Mitt give him an opening.

Did classy Michelle really break protocol by cheering when the "trap" was sprung?

37 posted on 10/21/2012 4:39:27 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I kind of feel sorry for this guy.

You think that maybe a colleague could have pulled him aside and said “geesh buddy, put some ice on it. Are you sure you shouldn’t only send this to your mom and grandma or sumthin”?

He is actually describing himself and his Dear Leader slipping in conservatives in the place of progressives.

Alternate universe? Delusional? Projection? sore loser?

Terrible qualities, all.


38 posted on 10/21/2012 4:39:27 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The answer to any progressive that cares to ask “Why is America exceptional, silly conservative?” is...

...the Bill of Rights. Freedom of speech, from religious persecution, and the right to bear arms, among other rights, seperate America from the rest of the world.


39 posted on 10/21/2012 4:42:10 AM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: ez

To this writer and his followers, it’s all about the UNION - labor, civil and European.


40 posted on 10/21/2012 4:46:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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