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**LIVE THREAD** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern)
C-SPAN ^ | 10-16-12 | Live Thread

Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat

Edited on 10/16/2012 3:04:16 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26

Town Hall debate.

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The debate can also be watched at these links:

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; debate2012; presdebate2live; presidentialdebate2
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To: wardaddy
Details would be nice about the problem, almost thinking software (probably pretty ancient) or current configuration trying to run ancient software, but with no details, just taking a SWAG.
1,061 posted on 10/16/2012 11:20:20 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: wastedyears
All he has to do is say the two magic words, “you’re lying,” and he’ll destroy Obama.

Obama's soul is more callous and scarred than to be destroyed by his label as a liar.

Remember, the debates are a public forum which is used to present the candidates for future office before the American people.

Obama, in nearly every response, memorably began by accusing Romney as being a liar. That is either a tactic he had been drilled to state, buying him time to phrase his response, and/or a manifestation of frustration by a soul unable to listen to a different viewpoint and quickly judging those with differing viewpoints, and/or a Freudian slip, attempting to accuse his competition of an identical fault he knows he will be accused, so that those hearing the charges,..the voting public, will simply discount both charges, giving him equal access to the office as those who are honest and honorable.

Once he accuses with that label, the burden of proof is upon him to justify the charge.

Obama lies so frequently, that most honest observers have no problem identifying that trait without assistance.

Many voters are simply seeking a diligent honest and honorable person to vote into the Presidency,...anything more than an empty chair.

It is nice to observe Romney's response to Obama claiming he labeled the Benghazi attackers as terrorists. Romney knew it was false, but he wasn't accustomed to immediately attacking his opponent as an adversarial accuser. Romney expressed his belief Obama was engaged in another falsehood, while also manifesting respect for all until proven guilty. Romney has a sense of justice, which Obama not only lacks, but is void in seeking.

IMHO, Romney wins more hearts and minds by simply continuing to address problems and provide solutions. Let Obama/Biden continue to lie, obfuscate, accuse, smirk, and promote their egos. Those who vote for them simply label themselves as also lacking virtue.

1,062 posted on 10/17/2012 1:44:08 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: wastedyears; Jim Robinson

dittos


1,063 posted on 10/17/2012 1:47:00 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: PghBaldy

Only problem is that it wasn’t an act of terror, but a coordinated infantry attack on foreign sovereign national soil by a covert military force on the anniversary of 9/11.

This Administration’s response of apologizing to other mass adversaries, at a time of defeat, simply encourages and strengthens the resolve of our adversaries, and promotes future acts of terror against Americans.

There is one remarkable similarity between the Twin Towers and Benghazi. Both could be interpreted as adversarial military attacks upon CIA covert operational bases by forces previously trained by the same.

One problem with covert warfare is that it must remain hidden to succeed. If covert operational campaigns continue to destroy national establishments, they no longer have the security afforded them by national governance.

Just as fragile are these newly formed national governments by covert support, they also may be intercepted by other national covert adversaries.

From what we know, Benghazi may have been instigated by Obama and Hillary, (which would ironically explain their rush to claim responsibility, a month after the fact) just as plausibly as it may have been an in-your-face Al Quada attack, or maybe Russian backed, or anybody else.

IMHO, Romney could point out that the Obama Administration’s handling of Benghazi has perhaps done more harm to the diplomatic community and undermined the mission of the UN than any other Administration in US history.


1,064 posted on 10/17/2012 2:10:00 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I’m in Jax too and have only seen a few.


1,065 posted on 10/17/2012 2:12:43 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (This tagline for rent. Contact GeorgiaDawg32 for pricing and excellent financing options.)
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To: wardaddy
Debate started over ere at 0901:30 GMT+8. By 0910 I could not get into the thread. Just locked up cold.
Watched it on C-Span live.
I'm on a pretty high speed line (15 down-8 up) here - everything else worked but no FR.

Hope it gets sorted out by the 3rd debate.
1,066 posted on 10/17/2012 3:06:15 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Tainan

1066...Battle of Hastings...end of the Dark Ages...Start of the Middle Ages!


1,067 posted on 10/17/2012 3:13:27 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: RKBA Democrat

I can’t help but feel Romney lost last night for that one moment, that he allowed that POS to look him in the eye and pretend to be the Commander in Chief. Nevermind Obama lost 100% in facts and details, that has never mattered to libs.

Romney should have interupted just like Obama kept doing and ended that one....he just looked weak as the President put him down and raised himself above the politics, all the while looking him in the eye, no matter how absurd that is.

Romney put him down well earlier and that could have been a stand out moment, but Obama managed to lie his way back.

He was weak on Obamas personal criticisms of him. His business background (responding weakly much later in the debate), his 47% comments....Libya....he had chance after chance to score knock out blows and he didn’t.

That said the format was extremely hostile to him, Obama seemed to get the last word every time and the questioning from the ‘audience’ was questionable......Romney will do better in the last debate and hopefully land some bigger blows.


1,068 posted on 10/17/2012 3:32:40 AM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: Darnright
Get a transcript of his words and a link to them and print it on a piece of paper (to hand to your liberal friends when they are stupid enough to try this on you) because obama NEVER said ACT of terror... he mentioned terror but not in the use of this being an act of terror. IOW obama lied and Mitt was correct.

LLS

1,069 posted on 10/17/2012 3:52:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Red Steel

crawl-ee also said that Paul Ryan was a Romney “death wish”. What do you expect from a corrupt fat arsed whore for satan?

LLS


1,070 posted on 10/17/2012 3:54:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: PghBaldy

Drug induced trembling. Those drugs that are supposed to temporarily increase intelligence and concentration have side effects.

LLS


1,071 posted on 10/17/2012 3:59:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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To: Paul R.

All excellent points, but Romney does superbly thinking on his feet.


1,072 posted on 10/17/2012 4:24:34 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: VRWCer

Valid point. I just hope the folks at home realize the moderators are in the tank for the Marxist.


1,073 posted on 10/17/2012 4:25:51 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx
Damn, Onyx! You got the SAME post in not once, not twice, but four times! I couldn't get the first post in last night nor could I get FR to run. Tried IE and Firefox and neither would work. sigh...grrrrrr
1,074 posted on 10/17/2012 4:26:44 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: sf4dubya
The whole strategy is to beat them senseless on their own turf with their rules, and it is working.

Do the folks at home, realize the moderators are in the tank for the Marxist?

1,075 posted on 10/17/2012 4:27:17 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx
Do the folks at home, realize the moderators are in the tank for the Marxist?

If they didn't, Crawley's "fact check" error will certainly make it clear. I sense a short commercial coming out of that one just to inform the public.

1,076 posted on 10/17/2012 4:37:01 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: Red Steel
The nightmare known as the Obama administration is almost over. 20 days left to his defeat. :-)

No, then he has two whole months until he has to leave in January, where he has nothing left to lose.

1,077 posted on 10/17/2012 4:45:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: onyx

“Do the folks at home, realize the moderators are in the tank for the Marxist?”

This stump jumper does.


1,078 posted on 10/17/2012 4:56:56 AM PDT by Clyde5445
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To: nutmeg
I haven't been able to access FR at all during any of the debates.

The main reason I joined FR in the first place was to join in on the live threads.
1,079 posted on 10/17/2012 5:01:58 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: onyx

Overlooked is the fact that Romney put an exclamation point on obama’s Libya lie when he said, “You are saying this FOR THE RECORD?”
After that, when obama and crowley doubled down, all they succeeded in doing was to compound the lie. It is on tape. They can’t take it back. And it WILL come back to bite both of them huge.


1,080 posted on 10/17/2012 5:21:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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