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Do black people support Obama because he's black?
AP ^ | 10/13/12 | Jesse Washington

Posted on 10/13/2012 2:35:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: SoFloFreeper

After the Biden-Ryan debate, the blacks, on FB, were jubilant with the job VP Biden did.....They clearly did not see the debate I did or they are delusional, and/or, racists.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 6:33:05 PM PDT by jch10 (America needs some R and R!)
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To: jacquej
ometimes I wonder, generalizing of course, if the black “community” longs for the good ol’ days of depending on the plantation overlords.

Via the vote, they are the plantation overlords. A big chunk of the community sits around doing nothing all day, and we feed and house them. A subset of the indigent supplements its welfare payments by stealing from or robbing the productive. They're not the slaves - we the taxpayers, black and white alike, are the ones yoked to the plow.

43 posted on 10/13/2012 6:50:30 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: sergeantdave

If there was a thumbs up or a like to this post, you’d get plenty!!!!!!


44 posted on 10/13/2012 6:52:08 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

Sadly, this is what FR has come to.

You guys realize there are blacks on FR. That there are decent, dedicated blacks in our military? Or do you just forget about them when it’s convenient for you.

And shipping blacks back to Africa? Where? I was born here. I’m as American as you - my relatives may have even come here before yours did. I’m not ‘shipping back’ anywhere unless it’s to Virginia when I retire.


45 posted on 10/13/2012 7:20:44 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, store food, pray for the Republic.)
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To: radiohead
I honor your service, and as an example think that Colonel West is one of our best future candidates for POTUS.

However, for everyone one of you and Col. West, there are 50 who eschew the values of Snoop Dog, Obama, and Jesse Jackson. Sorry, but those are the facts, and you are an exception to the rule.

46 posted on 10/13/2012 7:33:22 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Absolutely. Will they turn out to vote their racism? Tough question. They want their freebies, but their interest is fading


47 posted on 10/13/2012 8:22:38 PM PDT by Figment
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To: SoFloFreeper

Only 15% of the Black community have involved Dad’s. 2/3rds of that 15% vote for what’s best for the country.

The black community needs more Dad’s!

Most of the white folks I know that don’t have an involved Dad vote for Momma Government too.


48 posted on 10/13/2012 8:31:16 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

different question same answer

was the black vote for Obama in the 2008 dim primaries a whole lot greater than the black vote for Hillary in the 2008 dim primaries


49 posted on 10/13/2012 8:32:59 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Zhang Fei

They support him first because of his welfare socialist giveaway programs. Being black is just icing on the cake.
Blacks would not give Allen West 10% of the vote if he were on top of the GOP ticket instead of Romney. 90% of blacks are democrats because of socialist programs. Never forget that Bill Clinton and Al Gore got about as many black votes as the Kenyan candy man. Also never forget that the Kenyan can get 100% of black votes and Romney can still be elected.
Whites elect the president. Whites outnumber blacks by 70% to around 13% of the total population, but if you were to look at American sports and entertainment you would think the percentages were the other way around. For the last 30 years the majority of blacks were born to unwed mothers and had no father figure in their life so they looked up to athletes as role models. You still see very few in highly technical fields, such as doctors, nuclear engineers, or aircraft pilots. The reason for that is the breakdown of the nuclear family and the democrats keeping them dependent on the government instead of self-reliance.


50 posted on 10/13/2012 8:48:58 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: radiohead
Sadly, this is what FR has come to.

You guys realize there are blacks on FR. That there are decent, dedicated blacks in our military? Or do you just forget about them when it’s convenient for you.

And shipping blacks back to Africa? Where? I was born here. I’m as American as you - my relatives may have even come here before yours did. I’m not ‘shipping back’ anywhere unless it’s to Virginia when I retire.

Unfortunately, the identity politics fostered by the Democrats as a winning electoral strategy is leading to a reaction. It's as unthinking and reflexive as some of the socialistic tenets of the average liberal, but there it is. A lot of the posters here think that the black vote for Obama is a racial thing, when in fact it's a straightforward vote for a generic Democratic candidate of any race, given that the Democratic platform is the closest thing to a Santa Claus platform that exists among the major parties.

I think Rush Limbaugh pushes that line somewhat because he's too fearful of touching the Third Rail of political commentary and risk becoming a pariah thereby getting kicked off talk radio - namely that the blacks who support the Democrats do so because they are the party of freebies and racial preferences. It's a pure pocketbook calculation. It's not even a specifically black thing, given that the elderly also tend to vote for whomever dishes up the freebies but because of the country's (non-unique) record of slavery, it's become toxic to anyone who relies on ad sponsorship to mention it.

It's not a difficult calculation. If you're black or Hispanic and your kid's got 1500 on the SAT's, and you want him to go to an Ivy League school, the only way that will happen is if racial preferences in college admissions continue to be the law of the land, enforced by lawsuits filed by the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ. And the only major party backing these mandatory racial preferences is the Democratic Party.

51 posted on 10/13/2012 8:56:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: NKP_Vet
You still see very few in highly technical fields, such as doctors, nuclear engineers, or aircraft pilots. The reason for that is the breakdown of the nuclear family and the democrats keeping them dependent on the government instead of self-reliance.

On average, blacks don't have the raw intelligence to be competitive in these fields, in the same way that whites don't have the raw athleticism to be competitive with blacks in a lot of sports. People from white trash backgrounds routinely outscore the children of senior black corporate execs (many promoted via affirmative action), so culture is not the issue. A big part of the drama with respect to race differentials comes from the fact that the different races don't look the same. If there was a way to genetically engineer all white babies at birth so they would all grow up with black features or vice versa, nobody would care, and we'd accept the disparities as part of the normal distribution of characteristics within the human species.

The reality is that on average, different races have different raw abilities, much as German shepherds and chihuahuas are wired differently, despite being of the same species. It's not impossible that a Japanese runner could break the 100m world record, but it's not very likely. Similarly, it's not impossible that a black person could be the next Einstein, but it's not very likely.

What makes these inter-racial differences problematic in this country is a combination of our past history of slavery followed up by a century of Jim Crow. Without Jim Crow, blacks would be much more fully integrated than they are today. For one thing, miscegenation over a century would have ensured the practical disappearance of the color line. But that's all water under the bridge, and our predicament is what it is.

52 posted on 10/13/2012 9:19:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: radiohead

You’re my favorite band.

(BTW, ignore the race baiters)


53 posted on 10/13/2012 9:30:02 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: catfish1957

What did sargeantdave say?


54 posted on 10/14/2012 9:34:34 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Zhang Fei

Identity politics only matters when you are a Democrat.

If you come out as a black Republican, you are a house nigger, a race traitor, an uncle tom, an aunt jemimah. Look at the words they used to attack those in Bush’s cabinet and the Supreme Court.

Look at how NOW was silent when Sarah Palin was called a cunt and a bitch.

Cross a Communist and you are DEAD to them.


55 posted on 10/14/2012 9:36:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Zhang Fei
Blacks will always vote democrat regardless of race. Blacks do not vote for Obama because he's black, they vote for him because they are communists like he is.
56 posted on 10/14/2012 9:51:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: radiohead

“Sadly, this is what FR has come to.”

I didn’t see the already deleted post, but I can guess as to it’s content. We have our share of idiots, it would seem. But that’s no different from what it’s always been. There is always been plenty of chaff, but some diamonds as well.

As for the underlying race issue, I do think it’s a factor in the rise of hussein but I also think it’s more the underlying politics than anything. We had a race in VA must’ve been about 6-8 years ago where a black (liberal)incumbent congresscritter was challenged by a black conservative woman. She was very qualified. She was also trounced. It was just a complete steamroll. Although it was a largely black district, it was also a very liberal district.


57 posted on 10/15/2012 3:42:03 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: radiohead

well said!


58 posted on 10/15/2012 10:39:40 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: radiohead; catfish1957

Perhaps rh is the exception to the rule, however lets not forget that this is FR, we are freepers, we are conservatives all — whatever be the color of our skin or our religion. So, a mindless jab at a particular group labeling all as not conservative is wrong precisely because the people who will see that post (freepers) will be conservatives and may be members of that group.


59 posted on 10/15/2012 10:41:43 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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