Posted on 10/13/2012 8:07:38 AM PDT by Gritty
According to Sean Smith's mother that was her son's job. She said he died alone and no one else was in that area of the building and her suspicion is that he was trying to destroy classified materials when they got him. A mother's opinion to be sure. But not illogical.
Source? (Or did I miss it somehow - sleepy...)
"While The Rest of You Have Been Distracted"
Those are excellent finds. Thanks for posting them.
No, he helped make it happen..
At this hour your link is timing out and won't connect.
http://www.northafricaunited.com/Libya-Dead-intelligence-officer-named_a2178.html
Libya: Dead intelligence officer named
NAU - Agencies
Sunday, September 2nd 2012
A car bomb on Sunday in the eastern Libya city of Benghazi killed a former security official who served under slain dictator Muammar Gaddafi’s regime, a top official said.
Libya: Dead intelligence officer named
The member of the intelligence services killed in a car bomb explosion in Benghazi’s Gamel Abdul Nasser Street this afternoon has been named as Colonel Juma Al-Kadiki. He died instantly when what is being reported as a “Gelatina” bomb went off. His colleague, Captain Basit Agfiza Mabrouk, was rushed to hospital. His condition is unknown, according to the Libya Herald.
There are differing accounts of what happened. According to a Supreme Security Committee spokesman, the car was attacked by unknown assailants. However, there are allegations that the bomb was being carried in the car door compartment and exploded when the door was slammed shut.
It is reported that the two had just left a meeting at the General Intelligence Services. They went to buy cigarettes. Eyewitnesses say that, when he got out, Mabrouk slammed the door of the car hard and this was followed by an immediate explosion.
Fourteen other current and former military officials have been assassinated in Benghazi so far this year and there have been other attempted assassinations. It has led local residents to claim there is a hit list, drawn up by an alleged undercover Islamist organisation.
Earlier last month, Brigadier-General Mohammed Al-Fitouri who had served under the Qaddafi regime but was in charge of weapons-storage in the city, was gunned down as he left midday prayers in the city.
In a response to the assassinations, Grand Mufti Sheikh Sadik Al-Ghariani issued a fatwa condemning the bombings and assassinations.
However, there have also been fears of attacks and acts of sabotage in the city by pro-Qaddafi elements in the run-up to the 1 September anniversary of the late dictator’s 1969 coup. These have been fuelled in recent days by a number of incidents.
On Friday, a bomb was found that the Sidi Hussein blood bank centre with the message o “Al-Fatah –a gift from martyr, Issam Fitouri, 30 August 2012”. The reference to “Al Fatah” (the Opening) which was Qaddafi’s description for his 1969 “revolution” was seen as confirmation of pro-Qaddafi activity.
On Wednesday, security forces in the city reportedly uncovered large quantities of weapons and ammunition in one of the city’s public markets
On Monday, an armed group attacked the Criminal Investigation Department’s premises in the city. There were no casualties and two of the attackers were detained.
As a result a state of high alert was declared in the city by the deputy interior minister responsible for eastern Libya, Wanis Al-Sharif.
The attack on Wednesday in which an air force colonel, Mahmud Berrhouma, was shot in the legs is, however, seen to have been an attempt at common theft. The assailant was apparently after his car.
Thanks for copying the text for me. The link still times out for me. Strange.
BTTT THese are unreal times we r living in
A thought: If Coptic Christian priests are or were being crucified in Egypt, I'd guess it would be almost a certainty that some Jihadist has posted a video somewhere. How to find it???
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You know... If there were only 3 Libyan guards at the compound at the time of the initial attack, as related by DAS Lamb, we know one was wounded and out of the fight immediately, and one escaped and went for help. That only leaves one unaccounted for, and I suppose he might have either been killed, fled, was a rat and hooked up with the attackers, or was with the Americans who went to the safe house. (And possibly ratted them out there?)
I wonder how large the first “wave” of Libyans who arrived with the guard who went for help, was. Maybe it was large enough to give a pretty decent account of itself. I also keep wondering if there were other “forces” at the compound that we are not being told about: CIA, private contractors, etc.
More shortly (lots to type, and I’m not a fast typist.) :-)
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Hardly Mentioned: 8 Americans Wounded in Benghazi - Local Security Abandoned the Property
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 9-14-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook
Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:21:10 PM by maggiesnotebook
The UK Independent article has been quoted many times concerning the news that the US had a 48-hour warning before the Cairo Embassy and Benghazi Consulate attacks, but little has been known about another 8 Americans wounded, some of them Military, or that the 30+ force of Libyan guards on the property abandoned it, for the most part. Also, news that the Consulate had just had a “security health check,” by local sources, due to the coming day of 9/11, and apparently passed. A pressing question: how badly wounded are these 8 Americans. Other than emotional scars, will they bear life-alternating physical limitations? UPDATE: Some later reports say 14 were wounded, but I haven't found confirmation, or clarification that they were all Americans.
10pm: Attackers open fire at the consulate, which has a main building and a smaller annex.
10.15pm: The assailants gain entry to the complex and the main building is engulfed in flames.
Many of those trapped inside escape but Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith and a regional security guard remain.
The security guard manages to escape and returns shortly afterwards with others to try to rescue Mr Stevens and Mr Smith.
They find Mr Smith dead and pulled him from the building, but no sign of Mr Stevens. They are driven from the building by thick black smoke, fire and gunfire.
10.45pm: Security staff try to retake the main building but come under heavy fire and retreat.
11.20pm: A second attempt to retake the main building is successful. Fighting moves to the annex.
Midnight: Fighting at the annex - reported to last about two hours - results in the deaths of two more Americans, later named by US authorities as former Navy Seals whose job was to protect the other staff. At some point, here, a joint US - Libyan team of 8 U.S. marines (?) (Were they at the EMBASSY in Tripoli?) flown in, and an undetermined number of Libyan militia-men, arrives at a safe house (referred to as a farm at a remote location by one of the Libyan officials) where the bulk of the staff has taken refuge. (Location of the safe house is undetermined, as is how the staff got there, if it is at some distance from the Consulate.)
SOMEBODY sent the American troops - the question is who? My guess is that this actually was the intended / ordered response, the problem being that the true magnitude / nature of the attack was not fully understood until too late. The rescue team comes under heavy attack at the safe house; two more Americans(?) are killed.
1.15am: Amb. Stevens arrives at a nearby hospital - it is not known who took him. A doctor there has told the BBC that he spent an hour trying to revive him, but that Mr Stevens died from smoke inhalation.
2.30am: Security forces regain control of the annex.
?? am: More Libyan security forces arrive at the safe house, eventually the attackers are driven off, and the Americans are evacuated to the airport, around dawn.
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My understanding is that the annex is at the Consulate and the safe house at a remote location. Perhaps this is not correct?
You pointed out:
Actually Col. Hunt explained that everyone up the chain would have necessarily been notified immediately and they would have had the same access as DAS Lamb. ie. they could have listened in on the phone conversations w/personnel on the ground and watched the live security video on their laptops. There is no doubt that that would be available to the Pres., VP, Sec. State, Pentagon brass, CIA chiefs and many others. They could also have spoken with personnel on the ground just as DAS Lamb did.
Sure, I understood that, but I'm thinking that other information and communications beside the live feed and phone line(s?) from / to the Consulate would have been flowing up the chain, down (hopefully), and likely "sideways" as well. Under the circumstances much of the information might have been confused and or confusing. Even some of the information from the Libyans, afterward, was contradictory. The phrase "the fog of battle", applies, not to mention the possibility of false intel being injected even as the battle raged, or afterward.
Incidentally, in that one link of yours ( http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13833848-us-diplomats-marine-rescue-team-were-also-attacked-at-safe-house-libyans-say?lite ) I found this:
Speaking of the rescue mission, he (Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif) said: "A team of commandos arrived by air and went to a farm which we thought was a secret location. Once they got there, they came under heavy fire from heavy machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and automatic rifles, which resulted in the death of two others."
They went to a FARM? Maybe that's just a mis-translation, but if not, was there heavy fighting at both the annex and at a safe house located at the farm mentioned, which surely sounds like it was not inside the Consulate grounds, or even nearby.
The farm was supposed to be a secret location: That may go right along with "The Taliban is inside the house". I suppose the escaped staff could have been tracked to the safe house, though.
Coptic Christians in Egypt have been under attack for ever,not really news,IMHO.Atlas Shrugs has been recording this stuff alone for years now.
There seems to be a big discrepancy between reports of 30 Libyan guards, and the 3 that DAS Lamb apparently referred to. (I keep meaning to listen to that House hearing again, but just can’t come up with the time.) Shoot, I should still be in bed, now, as I was up late...
I don’t have the link handy but theoretically the regime was trying to run the con that the locals were taking over security and they were being paid $30 per day. Trouble is they hadn’t been paid in along time. This is right up the regimes alley.Create a lie perpetrate it giving them cover and then let things take their course.
There was so much information presented in that hearing I too need to listen again. I have read so much that my head hurts.
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