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Joe Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. The Democrats have become the rude party
Telegraph - UK ^ | October 12, 2012 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 10/12/2012 12:38:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

No one’s denying that Joe Biden delivered the more energetic performance in Thursday’s vice presidential debate. He interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes. Yet some polls say that Ryan won and many pundits are calling it a draw. How come?

Two reasons. First, deconstruct the Biden bluster and some of what he said was nonsensical. In the first 10 minutes alone, Joe insisted that the US intelligence community was wrong on Libya but trustworthy on Iran. He claimed that the staff at the Benghazi embassy didn’t want extra security when lots of sources say that they begged for it. He seemed to rule out war with Iran under any circumstances, which would remove America’s one bargaining chip. As political klutzes go, Biden is to talking what Gerald Ford was to walking.

More importantly, Biden was rude. Perhaps he was trying to emulate Romney’s dominant performance from the week before. But where Romney was commanding, Biden was just insulting. The most damning moments came when the camera went split screen. On the right was Ryan trying to make a serious point about world peace. On the left was Biden laughing. The Vice President’s performance will doubtless rally the party faithful and give them a few applause lines to live off through to November. But it’s hard to imagine independents warming to these theatrics.

The Democrats have made the classic mistake of thinking that what they want to see is what everyone else wants to see. This isn’t peculiar to the Obama/Biden ticket but part of a long-term evolution. Back in 2000, Al Gore huffed and puffed his way angrily through a presidential debate and possibly cost his party the election. The Democrats ought to have learned from that, but .....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; 2012veep; democraticparty; dempolitics; politicalhack; vpdebate
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To: Ohioan
It is the Leftist thing. Leftists are at war with reality. This leads to an end justifies the means mindset. Shame is something that people driven by moral values exhibit. It flows from humility--a realistic assessment of the supreme importance of things beyond the ken of mere man. Those who deny God's reality do not even comprehend the concept.

True.

"..................Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will forever be blind-sided by the malice of the left—by the cynicism of those who pride themselves on principle, by the viciousness of those who champion sensitivity, by the intolerance of those who call themselves liberal, and by the ruthless disregard for the well-being of the downtrodden by those who preen themselves as social saints....." Source

21 posted on 10/12/2012 1:00:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: GOPJ

I thought about that and whether someone’s head would roll for the debates split-screen decision. Perhaps they were hoping for that one good “gotcha” shot of Romney or of Ryan (all others would hit the round file) that they could run over and over again.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 1:03:00 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Biden is a creep.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 1:03:06 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obamar)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This should be no surprise to freedom loving people. The RATS are socialist/marxist/ communist in their beliefs. Typical is to shout down their opponents by demeaning them and preventing the truth. This is right out of the Alinsky playbook.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 1:05:31 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: KansasGirl

That way he has of jabbing the air toward you while he’s talking is unnerving (and he holds a sharp object in his hand too).


25 posted on 10/12/2012 1:05:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: The Toll

Biden is a crapweasel and shouldn’t be next in line for the presidency.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 1:05:54 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Democrats have become the rude party.

No! Really? I thought this was just a civil debate about differences in patriotic visions???


27 posted on 10/12/2012 1:07:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Gator113

Some of us ex-wives here had flash-backs to former abusive husbands watching Biden’s intimidating and bullying treatment of Ryan.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 1:08:49 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think Neal Cavuto and Bill O’Reilly are Democrats....they are RUDE INTERRUPTORS just when someone on the right is getting to their main point. I can’t stand them.


29 posted on 10/12/2012 1:12:32 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Listened to the first half driving home.

Speakers in my car are not the best, so I didn't hear the interruptions and thought BiteMe was doing OK - except I was screaming "Liar" several times.

Got home and watched the second half....could not believe the rudeness.

Ryan could have nailed him quite a few times, but chose caution instead. He did a good job for his first big-time debate.

Charles Krauthammer nailed it this morning on FOX....

"If you read the transcript - it was a tie.
If you listened to it - Biden won.
If you watched it - Ryan won.

30 posted on 10/12/2012 1:13:56 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001. NEVER FORGET.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

MayflowerMadam, I am sure some did. I was kinda cracking a guy joke.

I am at over 40 years... I think she’s going to keep me. ;>)


31 posted on 10/12/2012 1:16:30 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Actually, since Ryan only had 40 minutes, it’s 82 times in 40 minutes. And if you throw out the opening and closing statements, it’s about 82 times in 32 minutes, or once every 23 seconds. Add in Martha’s butt-ins, and we’re down to about once every 17 seconds.


32 posted on 10/12/2012 1:20:21 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey, at least Martha kept sneering grins under control, right?


33 posted on 10/12/2012 1:21:49 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Nea Wood

Nothing any liberal candidate does upsets them.

Biden destroyed an innocent American’s life and smiled all the way!
Joe Biden - Bearing false witness, as usual!
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Biden


34 posted on 10/12/2012 1:32:02 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Do you have Prince Albert in a can? Then let him out.
When I was a kid I thought that was A hilarious phone prank.


35 posted on 10/12/2012 1:44:44 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: lacrew
Rudeness aside, did Ryan or Biden win?

Did Ryan help the ticket win in November?

That is the only important outcome.

36 posted on 10/12/2012 1:46:28 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Becoming rude? How many times has Obama given the finger to his debate opponent?
37 posted on 10/12/2012 1:48:35 PM PDT by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats, and it extends far beyond VP Biden, demonstrate a fevered class division consciousness while being totally classless. To me, it demonstrates a view I am convinced that Democrat officialdom are imbued with; that Democrats are, by innate right, entitled to government office unless denied by unfair elections (2000 and 2004), candidate lies or other obstructions. The lack of class, as demonstrated by Biden, comes from the arrogance of a natural office holder!


38 posted on 10/12/2012 1:51:30 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only 82 times?? I thought it was more...I think I saw better debates from a 5 year old then Biden last night.


39 posted on 10/12/2012 2:01:11 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rules for Radicals is now the Official Dem Party playbook.


40 posted on 10/12/2012 2:10:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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