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To: Shadowfax

I feel about this election the way I felt about 2008 - that it didn’t matter who won as much as many think. And the article explains why.

To put it in a nutshell, the problem isn’t Obama. The problem is the electorate. And in a democracy you get the government you deserve (yes, I hate democracy and know we are in a constitutional republic, but my statement stands).


21 posted on 10/02/2012 1:22:20 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I agree with you to the degree that neither of these men is going to solve our problems for us. If we look to politicians, we are an insanely stupid people.

But Obama is a huge problem.


32 posted on 10/02/2012 1:34:26 PM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: cuban leaf
The article makes a lot of erroneous statements.

You cannot put the blame for our current situation in the US on Romney, he simply had nothing to do with it.

Newt Gingrich? Dream on. Michelle Bachman had a better chance than Newt. Newt can speak wonderfully but the press would eat him up and the left would tear him apart because of his personal life and his history in congress. He is damaged goods even if he is the smartest Republican around right now.

The problem we have is our system. It was flawed from the start to end up this way, it is inevitable. The people have learned that they they can vote themselves largess from the treasury and they will do it untill the golden egg laying goose is cooked. When that happens we will start over again.

In my opinion there are a couple of things that we did really wrong that caused our demise. First and formost, the 17th amendment to the constitution guaranteed our collapse. We were at one time a group of states federated together for the common good. The 17th amendment made our government of mob rule. It is the majority of the people instead of the majority of states that hold all the power. It used to be shared, now it isn't. The states are now just like counties used to be, they are nothing.

The second destroying angel if you will is our education system.

Educators never get to live in the real world, they go to school where life is utopia and graduate to being charge of the utopia. Never understanding what a real job is has led our teachers to teaching rubbish and feel good education. Educators feel their problems are the only important problems and their unions have made them a force to be reckoned with. They have turned our children in to kids with a mind full of much as Limbaugh would say.

The last destroying angel I would refer to is related to the 2nd, the press. If you took all the reporters and newspaper people, TV news people and radio people and put them in the bottom of Mariana trench it would be a good start.

Romney is not the problem, he is the symptom. He is the best we can get right now who would at least stand a chance to beat the mooches of the world. Obama represents the 47% who are the moochers and the other 53% are not a block but a very disparate group some who want only one or two things and will not vote for a candidate who does not conform to their will. We have to stop that!

If there is a chance to save the Union, the USA as we knew it in the past there is only one way and that is for everyone who is not one of the mooches to vote together and stand behind whatever candidate the majority of the nonmochers have put before us. In the last election it was McLame, many of us held our nose and voted for him. Before that it was Bush again many of us had to hold our noses but it was better than the alternative, I think. Before that it was the rudderless Bush 1. We have not had good choices. When the good choices come along they get defamed by those of ous that don't agree 100%.

During a primary it is good to do all we can to vett our candidates, afterwards we need to get behind them whomever it is. If we are to survive we must do this.

The TEA Party has done more to change the face of congress than any one event in my lifetime. It is wonderful, they are a force of good I hope we continue to use it wisely.

We have to cut back government dependence, a few more percentage points and it is over and nothing will save us except ruin, and that is where the left wants to take us, or violence. God forbid either.

55 posted on 10/02/2012 2:30:56 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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