Posted on 10/02/2012 11:43:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Quite frankly, if the GOP loses, republicans and conservatives will not exist as they are.
The model would be more like a European style conservative than a conservative like we know now in the US.
Obama will have so destroyed the system of Constitutional government that it will be almost impossible to ever turn back, at least not for many, many years.
So we lose this time, it is over, and the leftards know it.
This is not the movies. This is politics. Maybe you don't remember the war between McGovern and Humphrey, or Kennedy and the GA mafia. Maybe you don't remember when the Rats couldn't even pay the phone bills for their conventions. Guess what...they survived!
Even IF Romney wins, this country is in for a world of hurt. With so much misery coming down the pike, the Rat spin machine will be in gear to attack, attack, attack.
Whether you believe me or some Hollywood contrived scenario, I don't care. I have little skin in this game anymore. I'm old, not in great shape and gonna die soon. You on the other hand are young and gonna have to deal with this mess as will your children. To think that the enemies of this nation are going to evaporate is at best foolish.
Good luck.
Thanks,
That was very lucky bolt that he would ping me with such a stupid comment when I was in an extremely playful mood all day, Earlier I was pulling up Obama-McCain polls posted here from 2008 and using them in comments on the poll threads just for fun.
I immediately thought : “I bet this is a standard act” and it took me about 10 minutes to mine that gold nugget.
Watch and learn grasshopper :)
The GOP-E can’t do much without the consent of uninformed Republican primary voters. They will probably anoint Jebbie in 2016.
You raise my hope. I just read about Nobama’s speech in 2007. I am seething. I need a drink or something to calm me down. I hope I live until the election. My BP is beginning to worry me.
” - - - The pinko, Marxist, Obama-loving side of me cant wait for the fireworks to begin.”
Well pinko Dan Hodges, here is how it will go if Romney loses: We will not stop until Obama is IMPEACHED.
We will vote the RINOs out of office in 2014 and 2016.
All in good time pinko Dan, all in good time.
Let me reply to you on a more-serious MUCH less-fun note :(
McCain was a disadvantage in 2008 and while he had some luck late summer with polls going up; after the Bush TARP banking crisis speech he was toast. No amount of spin here or on Rush (who predicted in October 2008 that McCain would win in a landslide, as did Hannity) could change that. I posted that he would lose and I had little doubt.
There is much uncertainty about who will actually vote this year much more than 2008, but I am very skeptical of Republicans who are really dying for Obama to lose, claiming that Romney is really winning big and all the polls are manufactured. This happens every election.
I call it looking out at the world in sunglasses that only show you what you want to see. You ever read Steven Kings : “Needful Things” ??
I think many start to believe their own BS, they :”get high on their own supply”
I think Romney can still win, but he is doing poorly. Much more than he should be. This is my honest opinion.
Thanks again:) You see like a very honest person.
wish i had a cool K to bet...
my bet is that bambam could go live on stage, take a baby from a botched abortion, feed it to *his* dog, then gut and grub the dog and baby RAW, finish it off with an 8-ball and a schlitz malt liquor, all the while facing east to the moon god, and the hypnotized drones would still vote for him...
all he needs to manage is a few percentage points beyond those drones, and mittens aint competing for em...
and we could very well ramp up another *war* in libya, or Isreal might see the window of opportunity closing and bambam get the patriotic bump...
hell mitt might realize hes toast, take his ball and go home...afterall, when you plan on being a god someday, why play President ???
I think mittens gets crushed, simply because he doesnt provide a contrast beyond what alot of people around here dream that he would be...
we were done a looooooong time ago, most likely before i ever had a *choice* ... /.02
I have to refine that a bit. He has to provide us with a obvious choice AND convince enough voters of those contrary positions such that he can get them done, and get re-elected.
Even if MR could slip by a margin and get nothing done and lose the congress in two years and the WH in four it would be pointless. In four years we would get the same old tripe about the Khmer Rouge killing us all if the Dem wins just as they are about to win. Lets say that's Hillary-O 'Malley in charge of the Killing Fields, Death Panels, whatever.
like i said, he gets crushed...
'the other guy sucks worse' will never be a winning campaign tactic...
No they are not. Romney is the latest in a string of media dupe candidates that GOP-E pick because they don't get out of the Beltway. Basically the media loves the Romneys, McCains, and Doles of the GOP right up until the moment they accept the GOP nomination and then they become Adolf Hitler. And the GOP-E falls for it almost every time.
There is a dynamic with Romney vs Obama that I never saw in the McCain vs Obama campaign season 2008.
More people are seeing the reality of what Obama is. In 2008, nobody gave a S what he was. He was considered to be Black, and that’s all they needed to know. Yes, I know, but it’s true.
Obama’s not getting a free ride this year. The Left and the DNCp are tossing the image out there, that he is unbeatable, but I don’t believe it for a second.
If you’ve been out of work long enough to have exhausted your unemployment, you’re going to look long and hard at this guy.
If the polls are true, there is a disconnect that is one of the biggest disconnects in human history. People would have to be voting against their own self-interest to back this guy. I’m just not convinced that’s going to happen.
Look, I could be wrong, but I still predict a Reagan level whomping of Obama. I think it’s going to be at least a 55/45 victory for Romney/Ryan, and I’ve been saying so for the last month to six weeks.
If I’m wrong, I’ll take my lumps, but that’s my take on it and it remains unchanged.
This is why I trash the polls. They just sound idiotic to me. It’s like watching a movie with the wife, and I rattle off the whole plot to follow, after only seeing five minutes of the movie. You don’t have anything to point to, but your gut tells you what is more than likely to take place in the way of a plot.
Years ago my wife went to go see Thelma and Louise with a friend. She couldn’t figure out why I didn’t want to go see it. After she came home I told her exactly what I thought the plot was.
I hit all major plot points for the movie including a sexual attack, shooting the perp, and their demise at the end. It as a cinch it was formulaic, and that forumla would be shallow and geared to touch on women’s hot button issues.
That’s what I see the media doing this year. It’s a grade D movie, and it can’t end any other way than with Romney walking all over Obama on election day.
We’ll see.
Especially since Romney is not even saying that himself. He is saying “it just didnt work out so try me, trust me”.
Its all the others saying that.
So O campaign just says, 'You cant just trust him. look at him, He says nothing",
plan B??
We will know by Wednesday night whether Mitt fears the race label more than he fears losing the election.
If Mitt backs off (pulls a McCain) it will be over.
Yep, he’s got to attack and educate tomorrow night.
True that Obama cannot hide behind the fantasy mirror anymore, except we have no one to take advantage of it. Every day I hear or read at least 10 things Obam is doing that pisses me off and I think “I wish we had an EFFECTIVE opposition party to call him out on it”. But we don't. (Gilb is always pointing out examples)
Instead of going after Obama, R2 is wasting all their time defending themselves in MSM interviews. Its pathetic. Its a huge waste.
I can easily predict that there will no landslide for R2. They might win, maybe,(not betting) but there is no enthusiasm for him Not a bit. Even his RINO allies are complaining about him publicly. that lit candle is floating on a pool of gasoline. Boom!
You are tempting me now....
Did you predict in 2008 that McCain would win? Don't fib now, Dr Who is watching :)
If he loses...you are damn right
purge these fwording moderates forever..I am sick of those bastards...i see Ed Gillespie or Rove I want to throw bricks through the TV as much as looking at Obama or O’Reilly
and sweep those who have slinked back on this forum with their vile crap while we are at it
i’m sure there is some anti freeper site run by some Englishman somewhere that while take their wobbly catty butts back
you are no dummy..been here forever (once an insider as I recall) and think before you type (unlike me) but the aggregate of polls have been accurate right before every national election since ..well...Dewey
they come and go up till the last week but then baring a DUI revelation they are damned close
however...basing most samplings now on 2008 Democrat turnout just seems wrong..and we hope they are
that and other indicators in depth like Battleground has
in any event...i got news for folks..demographics are gonna kill us...even if Romney wins it is just a finger in the dike
most here have no clue or refuse to face that music instead believing all the Pollyanna crap younger folks have been thoroughly brainwashed with over identity politics or cultural relativism
the whole system is dependant on itself...how many 'R's can bitch and moan, when theyre padding their nests as well, waiting for an opportunity to drive the bus ???
the media picks on us...waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh !!!
tell ya what, walk out onto the house/senate floor, or in the debate, and ask why the muzzcomm is bowing to the price of saud, or why the muzzbruthas are being encouraged to visit the white hut and control egypt, or why his fat assed wife thinks she needs a vacation etc etc etc...
and give em something to really talk about...???
i might actually think these tools have an interest in changing things...as it is, SSDD...
two wings of the same bird...
that natl bird will needs be a vulture...
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