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To: Eleutheria5
Possibly. Coligny and Ribault conspired together to start a colony in Carolina ~ which probably wasn't as outrageous as historians imagine since the rural Bretons at the time were just fine with King Philippe.

The deal was France and Spain had a treaty of commerce and amity that allowed even French protestants to participate in the Atlantic trade with Spanish ports.

The specific Swedes who came to America to cut pine trees ALSO had close ties to the same rural Protestant Breton nobility who were trying to get Spain to take over Brittany!

May have been the Swedes simply went to the same place Coligny was offered ~ which would be today's Pennsylvania.

When the Spanish began surveying the lines specified in the Treaty of London (1604) Greater NY CITY are as we know it was South of the line surveyed between Acadia (Owned by Scotland) AND Virginia (Owned by no one in particular ~ all European Protestants could go there apparently)

Ribault's failed colony was South of the Virginia/North Carolina line so it was out of bound and well within what Spain considered La Florida.

England didn't come into a power position in the Americas until after the Glorious Restoration ~ by then economics and populations had changed enough they had the upper hand over Spain and France. By 1700 it was pretty Clear England and the Scandinavians were going to be dominating Europe's direction for a long time. I"m not sure the English in the 1700s drew any clear distinctions between themselves and the Scandinavians and the northern Germans.

88 posted on 10/02/2012 8:18:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

They duked it out with Scotland and booted the House of Stuart from the monarchy, and then established the German dynasty still ruling England today.


89 posted on 10/02/2012 8:27:37 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: muawiyah
I"m not sure the English in the 1700s drew any clear distinctions between themselves and the Scandinavians and the northern Germans.

True, they were considered one of the Germanic nations (with the Scandanavians and Hanover, Bremen etc. etc.) until rather late

110 posted on 10/02/2012 6:33:03 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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