On the latter, perhaps we should consider this in a different manner. Try thinking of defeating Obama and as many 'Rats as possible as a desirable outcome in and of itself. I understand that many would rather have avoided the collateral effect of getting a Mitt Romney for President, but that is another battle for another time. We have to repair the breach in the wall before we can consider regrouping and going out in pursuit of the enemy. Throwing out the barbarians who have already breached the gates is the first priority.
do any of these woe is me voters every post on the DUmmy sites? is it just woe is me on FR?
No way on Earth is it a choice between two equally undesirable outcomes. If you think Romney is anywhere near as bad as Obama, you really have a lot to learn about Obama, his handlers, mentors, associates, friends.