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To: griswold3

LibyaGate + FastAndFuriousGate = 6 dead Americans and over 200 Mexicans total.. I’d like to add the crew of 38(?) SEALs that went down in a chopper in Afghanistan too because I think that was a setup just like Benghazi. That was a non-military helicopter (CH53?) which lacked extra armor that the military equivalent (MH53?) has. Those SEALs were sitting in a death trap.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 6:28:33 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

This is good stuff for Romney-Ryan !
If they don’t use it ......


26 posted on 09/28/2012 6:36:20 PM PDT by Ulysse (r)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

May as well add this one...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mysterious-fatal-crash-provides-rare-glimpse-of-us-commandos-in-mali/2012/07/08/gJQAGO71WW_story.html

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Mysterious fatal crash offers rare look at U.S. commando presence in Mali

In many countries, including most in Africa, Special Operations forces work openly to distribute humanitarian aid and train local militaries. At times, the civil-affairs assignments can provide credible cover for clandestine counterterrorism units.

But in Mali, U.S. military personnel had ceased all training and civil-affairs work by the end of March, about a week after the country’s democratically elected president was overthrown in a military coup.

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Little details not adding up

At least two of the soldiers in Mali had been trained as communications or intelligence specialists.

Bast, the master sergeant, was a ham radio hobbyist who originally joined the Navy before switching to the Army several years ago. An Army spokesman described him as a “communications expert” and said he was posthumously given the Meritorious Service Medal but declined to say why.

Myrthil was a native of Haiti who joined the Army two decades ago. Military officials released virtually no details about his service record.

Utley, the captain, was a Kentucky native who joined the Army in 2002 to work as a signals and communications officer but later transferred to the Special Forces.

Friends said he had expected to deploy to Afghanistan last summer but received last-minute orders to go to Africa instead. His Mali assignment was scheduled to end this spring but was extended, they said.

Three weeks after the coup, on April 11, Utley sent a brief e-mail to a friend from college, Chris Atzinger, to report that he was all right and that he would write more later.

Atzinger said he and other friends of Utley’s were frustrated that the Army hasn’t given a clearer explanation of how he died. “Those little details don’t seem to add up,” Atzinger said. “All of us are resigned to the fact that we won’t ever know.”

Utley, a graduate of the University of Louisville, was a McConnell Scholar, part of a leadership program named after Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the Senate minority leader. Less than a week after the fatal crash, McConnell gave a eulogy to Utley on the Senate floor, calling him “an American hero and patriot.”

Gary Gregg, director of the McConnell Center at the University of Louisville, called Utley a star student and “just a terrific kid.” But he said the official account of the crash didn’t make sense.

“It seems really dubious that six people died in a single-car accident. It’s just very fishy,” Gregg said in a telephone interview.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 6:37:11 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
"That was a non-military helicopter (CH53?)"

Just a point in fact: Being an ex-aviation Sailor on an amphibious flight deck, a CH53 (Sea Stallion) is indeed a military work horse to transport Marines and even some small vehicles/armor. Air Force C-5's are used for the bigger stuff. Early CH-46 (Sea Knight) and similar design CH-47 (Chinook) are for Marine infantry transport.

A CH-43 is definitely a military aircraft and used to be the largest helo in the world...may still be. It's rotor-wash almost sent me over the side of the flight deck once upon a time.

49 posted on 09/28/2012 10:56:56 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Ever see Fail Safe?

I think the SEALs were 'traded' (like New York City for the bombing of Moscow in the book/movie) for Bin Laden so the Muslims wouldn't come after der reader.

Jarrett was supposed to stop the operation (as she had done in the past, more than once), and I think Panetta did an end run around her.

When it was a done deal, the WH had no choice but to claim 'credit', but that wouldn't appease DuhWon's masters.

56 posted on 09/29/2012 3:08:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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