Hubble Goes to the eXtreme to Assemble Farthest-Ever View of the Universe

NASA ^ | September 26, 2012 | Staff

[ETL]

I wrote: “within the Hubble Deep Field we’re seeing a succession of square images, beginning from very tiny (grain of sand at arm’s length size) to enormous (millions of light years across) at the distant end.”

What I should have said was that the Hubble Deep Field images can be viewed as a succession of planes, each at a different distance.

[Windflier]

LOL ... Losing track of time and space is a habit I intend to break one day. Just not today.

Yeah, me too. I'm bad when I find a subject that is this stimulating. The hours slip by unnoticed.

Gotta hit the hay pretty soon, though. Big day with work tomorrow. Great talking with you. This stuff is fascinating.

[no-to-illegals]

May your day go well. Great to speak with you and everyone who spoke gave it their all. It is a fascinating subject, one which leaves me saying ... what the heck? Me too, am going east bound and down.

[Windflier]

...am going east bound and down.

Good travels, my friend. Talk later.

[Tuanedge]

Also, a line from the movie Ben Hur came to mind...

“Balthasar is a good man. But, until all men are like him, we must keep our wits keen, and our swords bright.”

An eye on the prize does not make us blind to reality.

[no-to-illegals]

Thanks for the ping, FRiend. My apology. Did not notice before. The poetry of words. The music added to the poetry. The refinement of the entire package, and it all becomes dust in the wind, most every time or would that be every time?

[fella]

Back to the radio transmissions. Shouldn't there be thousands if not hundreds of thousands of civilizations just here in the good old Milky Way all of them developing and fading away at different rates so that at a stage of their development comparable to ours in radio that their transmissions would be reaching us now? Unless all that black matter that we can't account for is absorbing those transmissions we should have a large number of radio hot spots just in our own galaxy. If I remember correctly that is what they expected when they switched on that big radio telescope in Porto Rico.

[no-to-illegals]

Yet in every case, not simply a few, rather every case, does reality truly blind us or bind us, or does reality instead make us want the prize, yet obtaining the prize is worthless? Certainly would depend on what the prize being sought happened to be. If this is history repeating itself, and mankind has done all of this before, and did not attain the prize before, one has to wonder if mankind’s destiny is to never attain the prize, but rather instead to seek it and always fail. Seeking the unattainable or finally capturing the prize? Welcoming myself to the Twilight Zone.

[annieokie]

HE sure does, awesome is our GOD, and marvelous is HIS works. How privileged we are that HE allows us to see this.

[no-to-illegals]

Sometimes I wonder if our civilization was the only civilization to discover radio waves. Such a fascinating topic, and discoveries come from everywhere and everything. What if there are twenty billion different means of communication? Our civilization discovered only two or three thus far. Verbal, radio, then light. May have missed one or twenty billion different methods.

[Windflier]

Shouldn't there be thousands if not hundreds of thousands of civilizations just here in the good old Milky Way all of them developing and fading away at different rates so that at a stage of their development comparable to ours in radio that their transmissions would be reaching us now?

Unless all that black matter that we can't account for is absorbing those transmissions...

I agree with both premises. I think radio transmissions get diluted and lost among the background noise emanated by stars, quasars, radioactive gases, planets, nebulae, etc. I'm no scientist, but in my opinion, radio is a terrible medium for interstellar, or even interplanetary communication.

I think you'd want to send communications in a precisely directed manner, using a medium that is something like a tight beam that exceeds the speed of light. Now, that would be a neat trick, given that you and the recipient are both in motion, relative to the stars and planets.

But --- if you imagine a straight line between the transmission point and the receipt point, you can begin to get the idea that they could perhaps lock onto each other, thereby having that one stable line as their path of communication. Even though both points are in motion, it wouldn't matter, because the line of contact between them remains stable in relative terms. Hmm....

[no-to-illegals]

What if, in the plane, the geometry is such that there is no opportunity to form a straight line where the communication can arrive unobstructed? A heavenly body gets in the way or the communication is obstructed because of another event where no stability of the communication line is possible either due to an obstruction or unacceptable geometric planes.

[no-to-illegals]

There are few answers when seeking a means to communicate with a species of another planet. God blessed this planet. Most people think this planet is primitive, and our history of this world says we are, but all in all mankind has done well to come this far. I'm with you. Hope we make it this time.

[Windflier]

"Warp Drive May Be More Feasible Than Thought, Scientists Say"

HOUSTON — A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say.

A warp drive would manipulate space-time itself to move a starship, taking advantage of a loophole in the laws of physics that prevent anything from moving faster than light. A concept for a real-life warp drive was suggested in 1994 by Mexican physicist Miguel Alcubierre, however subsequent calculations found that such a device would require prohibitive amounts of energy.

Now physicists say that adjustments can be made to the proposed warp drive that would enable it to run on significantly less energy, potentially brining the idea back from the realm of science fiction into science.

Laboratory tests

White and his colleagues have begun experimenting with a mini version of the warp drive in their laboratory.

They set up what they call the White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer at the Johnson Space Center, essentially creating a laser interferometer that instigates micro versions of space-time warps.

"We're trying to see if we can generate a very tiny instance of this in a tabletop experiment, to try to perturb space-time by one part in 10 million," White said.

He called the project a "humble experiment" compared to what would be needed for a real warp drive, but said it represents a promising first step.

And other scientists stressed that even outlandish-sounding ideas, such as the warp drive, need to be considered if humanity is serious about traveling to other stars.

"If we're ever going to become a true spacefaring civilization, we're going to have to think outside the box a little bit, were going to have to be a little bit audacious," Obousy said.

http://news.yahoo.com/warp-drive-may-more-feasible-thought-scientists-161301109.html

[Windflier]

What if, in the plane, the geometry is such that there is no opportunity to form a straight line where the communication can arrive unobstructed? A heavenly body gets in the way or the communication is obstructed because of another event where no stability of the communication line is possible either due to an obstruction or unacceptable geometric planes.

Well, think about our primitive radio technology. It goes through walls, buildings, clouds, storms, metal car bodies, etc. I would think that a sufficiently advanced communication technology would have to overcome the obstacles you mentioned. Perhaps through some sort of 'lensing' or 'line bending' feature that we can't quite imagine today.

[Windflier]

There are few answers when seeking a means to communicate with a species of another planet.

Today there are, but that won't always be the case. If there's one thing the human race is good at, it's in figuring out the structure and puzzles of the physical universe. Our minds are our greatest tools.

[American Constitutionalist]

" Yes, they have, and I want to warn you about the cheap, tacky comment I’m about to make, only because I loath the man so much I cannot in good conscience allow it to pass un-responded, one you’ve heard infinite times before and will continue to hear for as long as forever that they in fact did find Obama’s birth certificate deep within the frozen crevices found in the South Pole of Uranus. "

Remember ? the Free Speech cops and wardens are out watching now so we have to make the disclaimer ( Fair use act of our 1st Amendment Constitutional right of FREESPEECH ).

I posted a post where I said ( Under the fair use act of using Satire ).... or ( Under the fair use act of using Free Speech ).

Like so,

( Disclaimer : Under the fair use act of my 1st Amendment right of Freedom of Speech )
I don't want to have trouble with the liberals or MSM on some kind of technicality thing called : infringement or copy right violation since they think they have soul ownership of Free Speech... heavy dose of Sarcasm..



Joe Wilson and the American people had it right the first time : YOU LIE !!


You see how it's done ? under the fair use act..

[American Constitutionalist]

After a 2nd look, by God I think your right.

[American Constitutionalist]

But doesn't it look more like a bunch of Amoeba on a Petri dish under a microscope ?

[bicyclerepair]

We’re only immortal for a limited time.