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Pelosi Vow To Amend Constitution To Overturn Citizens United If Dems Retake The House…
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| September 21, 2012
Posted on 09/21/2012 1:08:10 PM PDT by NYer
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To: FredZarguna
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posted on
09/21/2012 2:25:34 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
The draft Constitution encountered de facto rejection in New Hampshire in February 1788, outright refusal to convene a ratifying convention in Rhode Island in March 1788, and formal rejection absent prior amendments in North Carolina in August 1788. [From By Pauline Maier's book on ratification, AMONG MANY OTHERS.]
And, as already noted (post #39), the Bill of Rights acknowledges -- implicitly and offhandedly, because Madison was not in favor of it -- that the promise of a Declaration of Rights was promised sub rosa to a number of States, including the most important: Virginia. Absent the promise, he would almost certainly have LOST his congressional election the anti-Federalist Monroe.
42
posted on
09/21/2012 2:31:19 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
To: FredZarguna
Keep blowing smoke if you wish. It will do no good.
VA thought it was the ninth to ratify, it was not. That honor was assumed by NH.
Despite Henry’s desires, no state made ratification of amendments a precondition to joining the Union.
43
posted on
09/21/2012 2:36:51 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
You're blowing smoke. I've quoted an authoritative source and I can find a dozen more in about 30 seconds.
Where's your citation?
44
posted on
09/21/2012 2:43:00 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
To: FredZarguna
Okay smart guy, list the amendments all or some states agreed to prior to ratification.
You cannot.
45
posted on
09/21/2012 2:44:48 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
You're right. The Preamble to the Bill of Rights doesn't say what it says.
The clock's still ticking on your citation. But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.
46
posted on
09/21/2012 2:59:55 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
To: FredZarguna
You made an assertion and cannot prove it. Tick-tock . . .
47
posted on
09/21/2012 3:02:29 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
I already gave you a citation.
I already quoted you the preamble to the Bill of Rights.
It's your turn now. And don't bother to respond to me if you can't produce any authoritative source for your laughable claim.
48
posted on
09/21/2012 3:17:44 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
To: FredZarguna
You cited an irrelevancy. Smoke . . .
BTW, as further evidence you don’t know what you are talking about, Bills of Rights were not synonymous with post ratification suggested amendments.
49
posted on
09/21/2012 3:24:16 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
50
posted on
09/21/2012 3:31:13 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
To: crosshairs
She doesnt even know how it works, does she?Look, when you have hundreds of millions of Americans losing their jobs every month, there is no time to stop and figure out how things work.
51
posted on
09/21/2012 3:31:18 PM PDT
by
houeto
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To: houeto
52
posted on
09/21/2012 3:34:38 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
To: FredZarguna
So tell what amendments were common pre-conditions to ratification.
BZZZT!
53
posted on
09/21/2012 3:36:07 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: FredZarguna
You need help, so I’ll make it easier for you. Name just two states with identical pre-ratification amendments or Bills of Rights.
The world waits.
54
posted on
09/21/2012 3:39:08 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
Sorry, exam time is up. You've failed. And even if I were willing to allow you additional time -- which I am not -- you still have yet to produce any authority to back up your claim.
You've challenged a fact which is well known historically, so the burden of proof is on you; The Bill of Rights was among the first business taken up by the first Congress, because agreements were made to do so, without which several states, including Virginia, would not have ratified.
Your requirement that no state included a specific attachment before ratification is a logical absurdity and a legal nullity. With no Constitution in force there could be no Amendments. Does the word duh mean anything to you?
Again. Fail. I would advise you to transfer out of my class. You have little chance of receiving a passing grade with your level of historical ignorance or reasoning ability. Find yourself a nice post-modern feminist who shares your silly ideas about American History.
55
posted on
09/21/2012 4:24:16 PM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
To: FredZarguna
Hey numbnuts, prove your assertion.
56
posted on
09/21/2012 4:29:21 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: Jacquerie
Hey numbnuts, read something beyond Maier. For starters, try the VA ratification debate.
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posted on
09/21/2012 4:55:51 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(Exterminate rats.)
To: NYer
Never happen. Won’t get enough states to jump on board.
58
posted on
09/21/2012 5:31:34 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
To: pabianice
If anything democrats are losing states, not gaining them.
59
posted on
09/21/2012 5:32:15 PM PDT
by
Secret Agent Man
(I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
To: NYer
So, how many union thugs are identified as having contributed to the DNC? How about just regular union members that have no say in how money that the unions steal from their earnings is utilized?
Wnen the commie unions start disclosing, then others can.
60
posted on
09/21/2012 5:41:23 PM PDT
by
meyer
(It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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