Posted on 09/21/2012 2:32:36 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
...There were wistful notes from the Republicans who'd helped run previous campaigns, most of whom could be characterized as serious, moderate conservatives, all of whom want to see Mr. Romney win because they believe, honestly, that the president has harmed the country financially and in terms of its position in the world. They're certain it will only get worse in the next four years, but they're in despair at the Romney campaign. Some, unbidden, brought up the name James A. Baker III, who ran Ronald Reagan's campaign in 1984 (megalandslidethose were the days) and George H.W. Bush's in 1988 (landslide.)
What they talked about, without using this phrase, is the Baker Way.
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That said, I think it is always good to assess if what you are doing is working (i.e. the campaign) and determine ways to do it better. However, articles like this give the impression that the campaign is in disarray, and I don't think that is true at all. The campaign has been the subject of an onslaught of biased media coverage, and they would like nothing better at this point than to be able to report 'disarray' in the Romney campaign. Pieces like this one from Noonan are a bit like 'chum' in the water in that regard. The reality is that despite incredibly biased news coverage Romney is well-positioned, and the democrats are scared.
I would agree....in the states that matter, Romney is in a better position than the media admits. Noonan’s commentary doesn’t really deserve to be discussed... irreverent is the term that I’d use.
With apologies to Michael Corleone.
I am not saying Romney is a Reagan but I am saying Fraud-in-Chief is worse (only by a little bit) than rabbit Boy (JIMMAH)
As rush would say she’s part of the beltway, elite club
I’ve noticed this about the Romney campaign: there is a knee-jerk reaction on the part of his employees everytime the ‘conservative’ Romney appears. The recently released videos, for example.
Oh, and I like the idea of “democrats are scared”. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!
I kind of doubt any insiders in the know are confiding in Noonan these days.
Anyway, Romney’s got a pretty good string of successes in his life even if you don’t agree with what he has been successful at. I’m inclined to trust him on how to win this thing.
Miss Piggy must have slept through this past week.
But the real question before us is not the faithlessness of Peggy Noonan rather it is the health of the Romney campaign.
This campaign is being conducted by those who believe on one side of an issue and it is being criticized by those of us who believe the other side of the issue. The issue is whether a political campaign should conduct itself to attract uncommitted voters whom we call "independents" or "undecideds." This side of the question is invariably the side favored by Rinos.
The other side of the debate, advanced by conservatives, is that the campaign should energize its base and that pandering to the mushy middle is counterproductive in that it diminishes turnout among the party faithful.
So far, Romney has conducted a campaign designed to appeal to independents and he has disappointed many movement conservatives. Let me move quickly to acknowledge that the selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate put many of us offguard and caused us to believe that Romney was prepared to conduct an aggressive attack on Obama and a full throated endorsement of conservative values. Many of us thought that Romney was capable of an aggressive campaign, questions of ideology aside, as we watched him systematically and even ruthlessly dismantle his conservative opponents in the primaries.
It is in this context that the criticisms outlined by Mr. Lombardo who worked in the 2008 Romney campaign, as quoted by Ms. Noonan, ought to be analyzed.
Please note that neither of these critics of the Romney campaign are criticizing Romney ideologically, to the contrary, they are talking tactics, perceptions, professionalism. We conservatives will instinctively react to say, "the Rinos are laying the predicate to blame Romney and his advisers for incompetence in the event of a loss of the election rather than accept that Romney lost implementing the Rino side of the age old argument."
We conservatives believe that a full throated conservative attack and advancement of conservative values will not only energize the base but will also draw in undecideds and independents. We cite Ronald Reagan as the candidate who could articulate the conservative message and we cite the millions of "Reagan Democrats" who flocked to his banner and gave him landslides as evidence that our side of this argument is correct.
For months now I have been posting on the subject but I have always been careful to note that Romney undoubtedly has the best polling and focus group data that money can buy and these data must undoubtedly be telling him that the Rino side of the argument is statistically sound. After all, we all know that we would all crawl over broken glass to vote against Obama even though we might not cross the street to vote for Romney. But consider, the tape recently released showing Romney conceding 47% of the vote and telling his potential dollars that he must concentrate on the remaining 3% of undecideds and independents could mean that Romney has carried a Rino preconception right from the beginning of the campaign and has refused to abandon it in the face of objective polling data. In other words, Romney is not informed by current polling and focus group data but he is locked into a prejudice.
If Romney loses this election, Peggy Noonan will have no ground upon which to stand and say, "I told you so." Rather, it is we conservatives who will own the high ground but that will be of small comfort as we watch from our elevated height the Republican Party being torn asunder.
Great post. Noonan0 supported BHO in 2008? Nuff said. There’s a reason she’s on Morning Joe. There is no longer a reason she should be at the WSJ.
General - very insightful. From my perch in NH I feel I can agree with much of what you say, particularly that Romney likely has access to the best data available.
We were seething here as folks were saying NH was lean Obama and we never even saw a Romney ad. Lo and behold the Granite Staters popped up for Romney by a decent margin this week. Romney and his mushy crowd (Old Bill Weld and Paul Celucci people) of campaign staff have a unique experience in running as GOP in Boston. They know how to win when the Dem advantage IS REALLY +15 not just imagined by some pollster’s research designer.
We shall test their conservatism once they are in, but its best to get them in and save the American ideal before it’s too late. I believe that of all who tried to run this year, we have the very best crowd to deal with Obama’s leftist media amen corner and actually get into office.
Thanks for a very thoughtful assessment. I think it's still relatively early, and to be honest, I haven't heard many of Romney's stump speeches, so I'm not sure how aggressive he's been verbally. Also, to be fair, the media weren't covering for his Republican opponents in the primaries like they are for Obama. If anything, because they saw Romney as less conservative than some of his opponents, they were probably more than happy to help him beat those opponents.
I believe that a viable campaign approach has to include efforts to divide some of the coalitions that make up the democrat base, and to work on suppressing their support. I know this sounds distasteful, but its what they do, and to me it's much more ‘distasteful’ to lose our nation as we know it.
I also think that Romney needs to really hit hard on the economic front, and point out to all of those saving for retirement that they may lose much of the value of everything they've saved and invested because of a looming collapse of what is now a financial house of cards. Also, point out to home owners that they've lost a significant amount of their equity (if they have any at all and aren't underwater), and that this is not going to get better unless we have significant economic growth. People respond most predictably to what they perceive is in their best interest.
These libtard republicans who can’t keep their big bloviating mouths shut really torque me! Fiest it was Bill Kristol who called Mitt Romney’s remarks about the 47% “stupid and arrogant.” And now Ms. Noonan’s wisdom from on high!
What irks me is the fact that Romney is THEIR CHOICE! Most of us wanted someone more conservative, etc. But now that he’s the candidate, even WE are in favor of his victory, even if our reason for it IS “anybody but Obama”! The Kristols and Noonans should be orders of magnitude MORE committed to Romney than WE are; he being THEIR guy, and all!
They SHOULD back him up and take his side on every issue, at least until we get him elected and Zero out to pasture! THEN we can work to steer Mitt a little more to the right. But the LAST thing Romney needs right now is to have his own so-called supporters bad-mouthing him and egging on the slimeballs in the media, and giving THEM even MORE crap to dump on our own candidate!
Noonan is one of those ‘chin-pullers’ that Michelle Malkin called out.
Recall the glowing article she penned aout 0bama around this time in 2008. Now she has buyer’s remorse. Please, Peggy, don’t offer anymore ‘advice’ on how to do it right this time. You’re disqualified.
The question is, what is the right approach?
I believe this election is sui generis in that I would be much more inclined to give ground to Rinos, because as you say, "We shall test their conservatism once they are in, but its best to get them in and save the American ideal before its too late."
I am trying to keep an open mind as a foaming at the mouth, flopping on the floor conservative so that my emotions do not control.
However, I think if we take a very long-term view, assuming the Republic survives Obama, the future of the Republican party and the conservative cause is doubtful. The demographics alone tell us that. Immigration reinforces it. The media compels it.
It is so difficult to conduct an election campaign upon conservative values if the media diverts the agenda every day, as we have seen so explicitly in this campaign. Romney has not been able to break through with any message, much less a conservative message. Noonan criticizes him for a rookie mistake of speaking out too early about that assault on our embassies, this is small beer, but it is illustrative of the inability to gain traction even when Romney is right. People like Noonan play the traitor and her remarks are further quoted to undermine Romney. Later she will say, "I told you so."
So we have a short run accommodation to make but a long-term decision to finally bring to a conclusion.
very good point.
Buy more ammo.
You're leaving one thing out, though, maybe because it's just speculation.
Romney said, during the primaries, "I'm not going to set my hair on fire (to appeal to conservatives)". I believe that Romney, and the Romney faction in the GOP, fear a conservative ascendancy and a sweeping conservative victory more than they fear Obama. Romney's faction never amounted to more than about 35%, but under rules that allowed a plurality "winner" (stupid, stupid, STUPID), they were strong enough to prevail.
This is partly a class problem. Mitt and his crew are just not comfortable with the NASCAR demographic. But I think it also reflects that they are in fundamental agreement with the post-1965 compromises, but believe that they are being badly implemented or that they "go too far".
We believe (I believe) that the post-1965 social and political Grand Compromise contains the seeds of its own destruction, that it CANNOT be properly implemented because it is improper to start with, that it was inevitable that it would "go too far" because that was the intent of its designers.
The problem we have (the reason I believe that Sarah could not have won) is that the People are not ready to fold the tent on the post-1965 arrangements. Politicians, at all levels except a few specific Congressional districts, must lie to the People in order to win elections.
This means that the Democrat, who can lie openly and unashamedly, will usually have an advantage over a Republican who often will be in coverup mode, with an opponent and baying media trying to "out" him as to his true beliefs and true agenda.
I voted for Gingrich, and I would have been much, MUCH happier watching him campaign against Obama. But I acknowledge that, until things get much worse, that overturning the Great Society by a direct appeal to the voters is not possible, and that, therefore, much worse is how things are going to get.
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