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U.S. Department of Education: 79% of Chicago 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading
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Posted on 09/10/2012 11:45:48 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Tenacious 1; All

“I bet if a kids grades were somehow linked to public assistance, a good many students would start doing better. If a child were to forget their homework or fail a test, the family gets $100 less in subsistance that week? At least the parents might visit the school a time or two.”

Sounds like a premise for a “MOVIE NEVER FILMED”(TM)

THE SCHOLASTIC HUNGER GAMES

Watch as kids struggle with their school work to feed their families !

Who will score the A+!

{Not making fun of you, though! I think your idea has some merit!}


61 posted on 09/11/2012 4:31:56 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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Then he will tell you that my argument does not preclude the possibility of good students graduating from poor schools; that would be analogous to quantum tunneling, which he would also understand.

He'll also tell me that the probability of you actually having the data to back up that statement is virtually nil.

62 posted on 09/11/2012 5:06:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Sub-Driver
One quick fix: immediately have the teachers themselves take the tests that their students are expected to take. Any teacher who does not score high-school-proficient in reading, writing, math, and science should be immediately terminated.

Of course, you may lose half the Chicago teaching staff, and most of the school administrators, but you might then have a fighting chance of having the school system do better.

63 posted on 09/11/2012 5:14:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Sub-Driver

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink

You can send a Chicago kid to school, but you can’t make him think.


64 posted on 09/11/2012 5:16:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Sub-Driver
Here's how their scam goes:

The schools are in crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Crisis. Johnny can't read. The teachers need more money. They get more money. More money. More money. More money.

The schools are in crisis. Now it's Juanito who can't read. The teachers need more money. Money. Money. Money.

Almost 80% of Chicago 8th graders are "not proficient" in "reading" (this doesn't mean they have a tough time reading a novel. This means they can barely stumble, if that, through any text at all). Almost half of Chicago high school students don't graduate.

This shows the schools are in crisis and that the homeowners haven't done enough in forking over enough property tax money. And the other reason is that all the good, smart kids have been put into private schools or have moved to the suburbs or are in charter schools, leaving the stupid, bad kids in the city's public schools. So teachers are faced with a serious problem that, of course, requires more and more money.

Also, the fact that folks start private schools in really bad areas and use a fraction of the money on kids who went to public schools to produce literate kids doesn't mean the public school is doing something wrong, it just means that the parents of the stupid, bad kids aren't providing a "supportive environment" for learning and making everything the public school teachers do collapse into dust and ruin. Which, of course, requires more money to "address" the "fundamental causes" of the problem, something along the line of a 30% pay increase. Yeah, that's it.

And those who oppose this are against the children and their poor working parents (who are also the stupid kids and slacker parents when another excuse is needed).
65 posted on 09/11/2012 5:23:15 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: PapaBear3625

-— One quick fix -—

Shut them down.

That’s not hyperbole. Literally, nothing is preferable to the $12k/kid/year union make-work program.

We built this country without schools. And the 100+ year, progressive-led, American decline, roughly corresponds with the completion of the total-schooling program in the late nineteenth century. A captive audience is catnip to utopians and authoritarians.

See Gatto’s, “The Underground History of American Education.”


66 posted on 09/11/2012 5:28:08 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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