Posted on 09/09/2012 9:44:24 PM PDT by Steelfish
Mitt Romney's Ohio Problem By Z. Byron Wolf
ABC OTUS News - Mitt Romney's Ohio Problem (ABC News) Forget post-convention bounces - the numbers that really matter are in the battleground states, where President Obama's polling advantage is more concerning to Mitt Romney's team than any national numbers. No Republican has ever won the presidency without winning Ohio, and Romney isn't in a strong position to become the first.
According to ABC News' latest race ratings, President Obama is in strong position for 237 electoral votes, when leaning and solid Democratic states and combined. Mitt Romney has only 206 votes he can expect in his column, as of now.
Add in Ohio's 18 electoral votes, though, and Obama stands at 255 - within striking distance of the magic number of 270. Romney would need to win nearly every other battleground state - a list that includes Paul Ryan's Wisconsin, once thought to be safely Democratic - to pull out the presidency without Ohio.
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Why would you need a source for secret Republican/Romney internal poll numbers when just about all the UNsecret ones reflect the same thing and that is "Obama is ahead".
How 'bout a shot of truth in that denial cocktail?
I don't know how they work it on other forums, but around here, you make claim, you back it up.
You made a claim. Back it up.
Stick it to him.
Every poll I've seen this weekend has Obama ahead. Why don't you show some polls where Romney is ahead. I would love to see them if not for anything else but to sleep a little better.
The truth is, with this economy (which is much different than it was in 2004) Romney should be leading in all states by at least 10 points.
YOU. MADE. A. CLAIM.
BACK. IT. UP.
Huge difference in my mind.
Prove it, liar. Post your source for Republican internals.
I have to go to bed. We will see if he backs up his claim, that Romney's internals have him down 5 in Ohio, or if he continues to divert with nonsensical nonsupportive comments.
He made a claim. He backs it up; he retracts; or he is known as a baldfaced liar.
Those are the only three options. Diversion is not acceptable.
We’re not talking about the news media and public polls and what they say...sure it’s post convention show Obama up, we get that. We are asking you to tell us how YOU KNOW that the Republicans/Romney’s own internal polls show him down by 5% points.
You are either trolling to be negative or you are making up stuff to appear to be some insider.
Would I be surprised Romney’s internal private polls show him down now? Nope, but that’s not the point.
The fact is all these polls are weighted almost 10% towards democrats when in fact there are more Republicans. When you give these polls the proper weighting, Romney is ahead 5-7%.
The problem is also that Obama cannot poll above 50% which is a huge because independents will vote 80% against the incumbent. It seems there are a lot of trolls and shills now for Obama posing as Freepers.
Hopefully you and Chunga or whatever her name is do not do to Mitt Romney what Sarah Palin supporters have done to her in the past.
Warning to the concerned. Do NOT be throwing would be Romney voters off the Romney ship because you’re in denial.
It could be partly why Romney is down in the polls.
Warning to the concerned. Do NOT be throwing would be Romney voters off the Romney ship because you’re in denial.
It could be partly why Romney is down in the polls.
Back up your claim that Republican internals have Romney down by 5%.
We already know you're a baldfaced liar. Redeem yourself. Post your source.
These polls are designed specifically to discourage you. Not one polling outfit has "republicans" best interest at heart. Never forget that.
Also notice that Obama is running ads in states that he won handily in 2008, like WA state. He wouldn't be doing that for no reason.
Having said that, we should fight as though we ARE down by 5 points. Go the extra mile. Get mad. Get even. Play dirty.
Tell every democrat you know that they really don't need to "worry" because Obama "has it in the bag". They don't need to vote because it's "all taken care of". If they want to vote, make sure they come out heavily on November 7, the special "democrat's voting day".
They're also both limousine liberals from Massachusetts with a large charisma deficit, as was often pointed out here during the primaries. Seems like all of the political consultants had their mindsets formed in the '60s when a Massachusetts politician like JFK was a smashing success and a staunch conservative like Goldwater went down in defeat. Despite all the evidence of how times have changed, e.g. Reagan's success and Dukakis and Kerry's defeats, the consultants who pushed Romney on us cannot change the imprint that was made in their mind at that time about what makes for a successful candidate.
I don't see Romney doing as well as McCain did with blue collar voters. He was pushed because the consultants think swing voters are all like them, wealthy liberals with advanced degrees who like tax cuts, abortion and gay marriage. But there are at least as many swing-voting "Reagan Democrats" who don't like rich people but do like God and guns. Most consultants have probably never met one of the latter people in their life though and are not convinced they exist.
You guys are good in digging up relevant data from Bush Vs Kerry election in 2004. Congrats!
"Also notice that Obama is running ads in states that he won handily in 2008, like WA state. He wouldn't be doing that for no reason."
Is that true? I saw somebody mention that on another thread, as well. Very interesting.
But the Democrats spent their convention blaming not only Bush but every policy the Republican party has pushed in the past 30 years for the state of the economy. The Republicans spent their convention talking about how much they love America. There is no way any objective viewer could watch both conventions and not feel that the Democrats did a better job of winning over voters. They actually acknowledged that they were there because there's an election coming up, for one thing. So this poll bounce for the Democrats should be expected.
Sadly, the Obama people are holding back on the issue of Romney’s flip-flopping habits. They’re probably going to be running “Romney Then and Now” ads sometime in late October.
He’s stood on every side of every issue. That’s going to become a problem with the general public.
As bad as Obama is doing, ANYBODY running against Obama should be up at least 10 points by now.
It’s time to start replacing people who run his campaign.
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