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Is Mitt Becoming More Conservative?
The American Thinker ^ | August 31, 2012 | Rosslyn Smith

Posted on 08/31/2012 12:49:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

...Protecting the middle class might be the theme of Obama's campaign ads, but the defining movement of this campaign came when Obama belittled the efforts of Main Street America when he stated that "you didn't build that." Those sneering words about smart, hardworking people revealed the ugly side of Obama's redistributionalist ideology. As in 2008, most of the media accept all the carefully scripted images of Obama as Gospel truth while they busy themselves trying to either hide or spin away all those extemporaneous words and deeds that display Obama's true beliefs and character as being either out of context or aberrational....

This campaign is coming down to two competing views of America. As it plays out, I think something very profound may be happening to Mitt Romney. Romney reminds me of a good many smart businessmen I have known. They live their own lives by a set of solid small-c conservative rules, but they are too busy solving smaller daily problems to think much about political conservatism as a coherent system. Such people often pay lip service to the left-of-center conventional media wisdom about big government and public morality even as they rigorously practice all the bourgeois virtues of thrift, hard work, neighborliness, sobriety, and sexual continence in their personal affairs.

....this very smart, very competitive man is facing an opponent who is perhaps the most rigidly ideological man ever to become president. Romney doesn't like what he sees happening to the nation, nor does he much like the person he is running against. Confronted with the problem of beating not just the person, but also the ideology, and then fixing what is broken, Romney may be discovering for the very first time that he is actually far more ideological than he ever thought he was.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: america; faith; morals; romney2012; values
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To: bkepley
You do not speak for the Tea Party.

I never pretended to.

161 posted on 08/31/2012 6:00:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sf4dubya
You don’t know TEA party.

You don't know Conservative.

162 posted on 08/31/2012 6:01:41 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Dunno that he is being “more” conservative.
It is possible that he simply becomes whatever the job requires. Given his success in business, that would make sense. Being a Republican Presidential Candidate (as opposed to being the governor of Massachusetts) requires him to be more conservative.
Hopefully, being a Republican President of the United States, will also require him to govern conservatively...
At least he understands he can’t run on “I’m not Obama.” He is trying to give voters something believe in.


163 posted on 08/31/2012 6:03:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: sf4dubya

then let me make this clear to you ( without yelling )

I do not give a flying (insert deleted expletive here)what people say... been there, done that, got burned..

I look at what they do..

In the case of politicans, I look at what they do IN OFFICE..

there were some decent people speaking at the convention..

They are not running for president..

obviously you are a bush supporter, judging by your screen name..

this same stuff was said at both of his conventions..

bushie was not a conservative, and did not govern as one..

his pub majority spent like drunken sailors, and passed more restrictions on our individual freedom than clinton..

and this guy makes bushie look like a hard core conservative..

stop listening to what they say, and start looking at what they do...


164 posted on 08/31/2012 6:04:25 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: Timber Rattler; Jim Robinson
Well, let’s ask the Boss himself what he thinks about the GOP-E attacks on Social Conservatives, and whether or not you can actually be a Conservative but NOT a Social Conservative...

By all means. I will predict that JimRob will likely state that if 0bama manages to win re-election, that both fiscal AND social conservatives are going to be on the receiving end of a new federal pogrom beginning in January 2013, at the hands of the 0bamugabe thugs and goons who are salivating at the prospect of unleashing the rest of their Communistic agenda on America.

You're already on the record stating that you're just going to vote 'none of the above' in your home state of Pennsylvania, so if 0bama wins that state on November 6th, it will establish that you were part of the problem, and not part of the solution.
165 posted on 08/31/2012 6:08:35 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: bkepley

Well, I could have said “A” Tea Party spokesman but I would have gotten the same response from you and anyway it’s pointless because you know what I was saying. If Mitt Romney is trying to crush the Tea Partiers then why would this particular Tea Partier not be afraid of him? Romney knows that at the end of the day the Tea Partiers except for those of the Paulbot type are voting Republican.


166 posted on 08/31/2012 6:11:25 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley

Damn, talking to my self now...


168 posted on 08/31/2012 6:12:47 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley

yes. we have to play the cards we are dealt. Right now we have no full-flush, but we have something that is better than nothing.


169 posted on 08/31/2012 6:20:53 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: sf4dubya

for me it is abortions just ahead of the economy, sorry.


170 posted on 08/31/2012 6:21:45 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There are many things wrong with Mitt Romney’s positions, and I will fight him on those. Unfortunately, more people in the primaries chose him over Newt, Santorum, or Bachmann.

Since I am in California, I am able to vote for a real conservative because my state doesn’t matter. Perhaps I will write in myself. But I haven’t yet decided. If I were in a toss up state, I would have no choice but to vote for Romney. This Catholic is not afraid of a Mormon.

Barack Hussein Obama is even worse than we imagined. We have never had a president like him before. Sometimes subconsciously, sometimes blatantly, he shows how he hates this nation and wants to bring it to his knees. He has disdain for the Constitution and will continue to make laws with the stroke of a pen; without the necessity of Congress, where law is supposed to be made.

A second term will not only be worse, it will be unimaginable. Without having to worry about re-election, he will continue on the path of destroying the country and making it pay for its sins of the past.

I would expect the FCC to enforce the so-called Fairness Doctrine. Three hours of Rush must be followed by three hours of leftist drivel with 17 listeners. It will destroy talk radio. Maybe the stations will all become Mexican music radio.

The Internet will be next. Tax on the internet and censorship. I have already packed my bags and and waiting to see where they send me for re-education. Since I love the weather here in SoCal, I am hoping they don’t send me to someplace like Maine.

How about 5 million illegal aliens becoming new DemocRAT voters without debate? Just the stroke of a pen, law of the land. Cool.

A second Obama term means money down the green energy rat hole and four more years of denying us the use of our own energy. We will become more dependent on foreign energy. When the Middle East blows up because Obama has refused to deal with Iran and nukes, there will be fuel shortages, skyrocketing prices for energy, and trouble getting our crops to the store. Impending economic meltdown will lead to martial law and more government control. Government control as we have never before seen. And it will be in the hands of a Marxist, someone who did not grow up in this country, and a Muslim apologist.

I do not like many of Romney’s policies and I will be fighting him to change them. But Barack Hussein Obama cannot be given a second term. We all know where that is headed. National suicide.

Standing up for principles is noble and should be lauded. Almost all of the time. But consider the guy living in a dangerous neighborhood, who is anti-violence and anti-gun ownership. We disagree but can at least admire him for standing on principle. So the day comes when there is a home invasion robbery, he survives, but his family is murdered. As he is being interviewed on local TV, he is proud of the fact that he stood on principle. Unfortunately, his family is dead.


173 posted on 08/31/2012 6:32:41 AM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: BlackElk

Mittler? Really? That sort of trash, and by extension its poster belong on DU, not here. Resorting to such arguments are indicative of having no actual point other than insults. As such, any item of actual substance that may or may not be included in the post is dismissed as the rantings of a loon.


175 posted on 08/31/2012 6:34:58 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Government's solution to everything: Less freedom.)
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To: SatinDoll
(To CW): GO TO HELL.

Ah, a well thought out and constructive argument. Thank you for your addition to the intellectual discussion. Stay classy.

176 posted on 08/31/2012 6:38:35 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Government's solution to everything: Less freedom.)
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To: sf4dubya

LOL what for? It does not change who Mitt Romney is.

It is like trying to say John McCain is a different person all together because Sarah Palin was his VP pick. That dog just don’t hunt. Look at who all spoke at the 2008 convention yet John McCain is the same guy he was before it and after it. If fluff like that is what gets you through each night have at it.


177 posted on 08/31/2012 6:39:46 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: sf4dubya

I beg to differ. Between now and November 6th, the irrational shrieks from the ABR crowd is going to reach eardrum bursting levels and will be anything BUT easy to deal with. But to get rid of 0bama, I’ll endure it.


179 posted on 08/31/2012 6:55:09 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: tnlibertarian
Mittler? Really? That sort of trash, and by extension its poster belong on DU, not here. Resorting to such arguments are indicative of having no actual point other than insults. As such, any item of actual substance that may or may not be included in the post is dismissed as the rantings of a loon.
Or a demented elk.

180 posted on 08/31/2012 6:56:38 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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