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GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today (It's not over)
RedState ^ | Tuesday August 28, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/28/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

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Another tells me, “They’ve gotten social conservatives comfortable with the platform and now that they’re placated [Team Romney] is going to undercut them with this change.”

It's not over!! Romney is trying to give us the go around

1 posted on 08/28/2012 7:32:03 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

WTF is with the distractions at the start of the convention??? They couldn’t have ironed all this out months ago?


2 posted on 08/28/2012 7:35:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Bigtigermike

My delegation from VA is on to this and they are not going to compromise. They voted unaminously against the Ginsberg thing and will do the same again.


3 posted on 08/28/2012 7:38:38 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Bigtigermike

Red flags went up for me when they started declaring the fight over. The GOPe doesn’t just give up that easily unless they are surrendering to liberals.


4 posted on 08/28/2012 7:38:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bigtigermike

These “grassroots activists” who caused this whole mess are Ron Paul supporters who lied about their allegiance in order to get delegate slots. They truly believe in a Ron Paul insurgency.

I agree that changing these rules would have long-term unintended consequences and would not be a good thing, but the original intent was to shut down an infiltration by dishonest people who are trying very hard to make trouble at the convention.


5 posted on 08/28/2012 7:39:04 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Bigtigermike

Over the years, the GOP-E has changed delegate selection so they could try for a more unanimous anointing. The Paulistinians took advantage of that this year and the GOP-E panicked and is over reacting. Now we have a situation with two “wrong” sides. What needs to happen is to have the states go back to the earlier process, where the candidates select their delegates and people vote for them, as happens in Tennessee (among others), not stifling what few modes of input people still have.


6 posted on 08/28/2012 7:39:04 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: ScottinVA

They hate conservatives.

They are INTENTIONALLY PICKING A FIGHT WITH CONSERVATIVES at their convention

SO THAT

Romney gets to distance himself from conservatism in the eyes of the electorate,

AND

run to the LEFT for liberal votes.

Isn’t that obvious?


7 posted on 08/28/2012 7:40:05 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Bigtigermike

The RINO Romney WILL NOT ALLOW DISSENSION
to his RINO decrees, or discussion
of the fact that he is Democrat RINO who pushes
every single DNC agenda (and claims otherwise
even AFTER imposing them, himself).

This will be nothing less than
a coronation of the RINO Emperor, and his
Death Panels and RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE,
over the carcasses of the Tea Party and conservatives.


8 posted on 08/28/2012 7:40:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session."- Mark Twain)
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To: Ingtar

Agree.

I have lost all respect for Ron Paul over this. He has a monstrous ego and is intent on causing harm. So glad he’s not running again and perhaps will just go away.

Most of his most fervent supporters are very young, very naive, and well-meaning. They will likely become good voters if they ever learn to think for themselves. This year, they’re brainwashed idol worshippers being used by an old man who should be ashamed of himself.


9 posted on 08/28/2012 7:43:08 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Bigtigermike; Perdogg

from the article:

“The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries. Grassroots conservatives point to both Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as reasons to stop this rule. Had there been front loaded winner takes all primaries, neither the Gingrich nor the Santorum campaigns would have been able to get any traction.

“This is going to be a fight on the floor if they don’t back down. They have too much pride to back down and we’re going to humble them,” said one delegate to the convention.

Another tells me, “They’ve gotten social conservatives comfortable with the platform and now that they’re placated [Team Romney] is going to undercut them with this change.”

Speaking to one person familiar with the rules changes who supports them, I’m told a number of people support the changes because they see the current rules as efforts by Michael Steel to “liven up” the process, but all it did was run up the cost and drag it out. “Are we really going to keep the status quo because the guy who brought the convention to hurricane country in hurricane season thought they were a good idea?” the delegate asked.

The Rules Committee will meet at 2:00 p.m. today in Tampa to consider the rules changes. If they make it through the committee, delegates are telling me they promise a huge floor fight and there’s no guarantee Team Romney will get its way given the current make up of the delegates in Tampa.***

So, they gave partially on the first issue, but didn’t get close to a compromise on the other 2.

Just like the Rino Media...report a compromise but have it be only a small piece of the truth


10 posted on 08/28/2012 7:43:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Bigtigermike

If 3/4 of the RBC agrees on a rules change, what more do you want? Why should a 25% minority hijack the whole system?


11 posted on 08/28/2012 7:44:18 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Bigtigermike

If 3/4 of the RNC agrees on a rules change, what more do you want? Why should a 25% minority hijack the whole system?


12 posted on 08/28/2012 7:44:28 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: xzins

It sure as hell is obvious to me. That is why they want Akin out of the Missouri race as he is too conservative for the like of Mittens and Rove.


13 posted on 08/28/2012 7:44:43 AM PDT by elephant
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To: Jedidah
...the original intent was to shut down an infiltration by dishonest people who are trying very hard to make trouble at the convention.

That does make sense. When I first heard about it I thought it was kind of snarky on Romney's part, but if Romney was really going after the Tea Party types he never would have selected Ryan.

14 posted on 08/28/2012 7:44:48 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Ingtar

Ron Paul should never have been presented as a GOP candidate in the first place. He muddied the waters enormously, is still up to his mischief, and I think did conservatives a true disservice.

Furthermore, he gave legitimate ammunition to people who want to make this change, which will go way beyond him.


15 posted on 08/28/2012 7:46:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: Ingtar

The GOPE just doesn’t want to wipe out the Paulbots but Tea Party and grassroots too......in fact this has less to do with Paulbots and more to do with the influence of the Tea Party in 2016 and beyond. Romney, Jeb and Rubio (fake Tea Partier) desires to clear out all opposition


16 posted on 08/28/2012 7:47:32 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Jedidah; P-Marlowe; SoConPubbie; cripplecreek; RKBA Democrat
these rules would have long-term unintended consequences

Only the naive believe they are unintended.

The first rule authorized the candidate to pick his own delegates, the 2nd enabled the candidate to set all the rules in secret with the power brokers, and the 3rd enabled the candidate to prevent future challenges.

Now, you tell me what rules 2 and 3 have to do with Ron Paul?

17 posted on 08/28/2012 7:49:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

RaDiO siLenCe over at Drudge


18 posted on 08/28/2012 7:49:52 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Jedidah

exactly , well said


19 posted on 08/28/2012 7:51:17 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ponygirl
Drudge has been co-opted, hasn't he?
20 posted on 08/28/2012 7:51:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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