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To: Ronin

What if he produces a valid document proving he was born in Hawaii? Should Romney then drop out of the race? Personally if Romney spends more than 10 seconds talking about anything besides the economy, he’s a fool.


21 posted on 08/27/2012 1:30:05 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
“What if he produces a valid document proving he was born in Hawaii?”

Actually, this is how Zero has gotten away with this for so long. The only thing he should produce is an unconditional release to the state of Hawaii stating that all of his records are to be made available to the public.

And as far as Mittens goes, I still insist he should have released 20 years of tax returns (real or fake) with “CERTIFICATE OF LIVE TAX RETURN” printed across the top and dared the media to call him on it.

29 posted on 08/27/2012 1:41:03 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: nickcarraway

It’s not the crime, it’s the coverup. For whatever reason, Obama stood in front of television cameras and told the entire nation that what he was presenting is the 100% jim-dandy, you-betcha Long Form Birth Certificate of himself.

He lied to the entire nation. Of that I am totally convinced. Why? Because as I said in my earlier post, I am confident that Sheriff Joe’s men did a solidly professional job of investigating this issue and if he’s convinced that it’s a fake, it is. He has no reason at all to lie and if there was any way at all that the conclusions he made could be refuted, Obama’s minions in the MSM would have already done so. Publicly. Loudly!

Just what is on the original? Is there an original? These are immaterial issues at this point because what ever it is and whatever it says — even if it agrees 100% with what the fabricated copy says, it is most specifically NOT what he released. And this is something I think Romney understands.

Whatever that evidence is, Mitt’s gone over it all with a fine-toothed comb and even finer minds. He’s smart, he knows where to find the experts on any subject, and pays well for clear results. He’s also sure to have access to whatever Trump’s people dug up. And I am very confident that we didn’t get anywhere near the total data dump from those investigations.

Of course, Mitt is doubly cautious because he knows full well that if he plays this card, he’s going to have to play it all the way. If he shows the slightest hesitation or the merest whiff of backtracking, he loses.

Right then and there. They will destroy him.

That’s why I said he has to hammer that one point. Focus on that. Ask Obama to explain why he posted a forgery and challenge him to produce the original.

That, my friend is the E-Bomb. If he plays that card, it’s total war.


61 posted on 08/27/2012 2:28:43 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: nickcarraway

Alvin Onaka has confirmed that there ISN’T a legally valid document Obama can produce.

And if the HDOH has created an aged paper forgery, as Arpaio’s posse’s sources have said, that won’t work either, because legally the only way anything in Hawaii has probative value is if it is presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and determined to have probative value. As we’ve been told by the Obots ad nauseum over the last 4 years, no SOS can require Obama to provide his BC as evidence. The Obama people have been fighting all the “birther” attempts to pass laws requiring that. So there is no mechanism for Obama to present his non-valid BC as evidence. The only way that’s going to happen is if a SOS refuses to put him on a ballot and he sues.

But if that happens, the SOS will qualify for discovery, and it won’t be enough to just have a birth certificate. All the records that factor into the document’s veracity become critical - and that includes the microfilms, computer transaction logs, original affidavits which had to exist in order to end up with a late or altered filing (the 2 reasons for a discloseable numbered BC to be non-valid). At this point it also would include the records regarding at least 3 people in addition to Obama whose HI records disclosed directly by the HDOH in the past year have BC#’s that could not have been on their original BC’s in 1961...


72 posted on 08/27/2012 2:46:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: nickcarraway

It wouldn’t matter if he produced a document saying he was born in Monticello or Mount Vernon, his stated father was never a citizen of this country and that alone takes him out of the running, period, end of debate.

Then if we discover his real father was actually Davis, then another whole crop of new Communist issues come to bear. So again, it is not in any way bearing on where he was born. He could have been born in the back seat of a NASA Moon Buggy and it wouldn’t have meant a thing in reference to his standing to hold the Office of the President.

And just to really gnaw at that last short hair of yours, his mother was in fact a whore, the only difference is she was not doing it with any kind of entrepreneurial zeal but instead with the same socialist mindset of giving it away and expecting everything in return.


82 posted on 08/27/2012 3:31:10 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t think Romney would have brought it up if he didn’t have some sort of proof. Maybe he and Trump put their resources together and came up with proof. I think I read that Arpaio will be attending the convention.


90 posted on 08/27/2012 4:38:13 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: nickcarraway
"What if he produces a valid document proving he was born in Hawaii? Should Romney then drop out of the race? Personally if Romney spends more than 10 seconds talking about anything besides the economy, he’s a fool."

I'm more interested in the treason and usurpation of the presidency than the economy. If the republicans continue to allow this treason to stand, they deserve only my contempt.

91 posted on 08/27/2012 4:38:18 AM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: nickcarraway
The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

113 posted on 08/27/2012 6:06:24 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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