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And they say we mere untrained civilians are not qualified to carry firearms.
What a load.
The guy didn't look like he could shoot his way out of a wet paper bag. When he drew his piece, he was holding it just above waist level, and kind of pointing it, instead of aiming it, and he was sort of limp-wristed about it, too.
The cops lost it.
Sounds like New York’s finest could use some brushing up on the use of deadly force.
Seven and nine shots? What happened to the “double tap”? Or even two center body-mass and one to the head if the first two don’t drop the target? Is this not taught in police academies any more?
I assume everyone involved was white. Otherwise it would have been construed as a racist incident.
The salient point: they were 8 feet from him and hit 9 other people.
16 rounds fired with 10 bullet wounds to Johnson and 9 other people hit by bullets or fragments. 19 hits (at least) for 16 shots is pretty darn efficient. < /s>
One of the NRA’s four basic rules of gun safety is to know your target and what’s beyond. I find is tragically sad that the police - of all people - did not follow this very important rule.
The two officers were protégés of trainer/director Sam Peckinpah.
Maybe it’s time we got guns ‘off the street’ by taking them away from the police.
They can still defend themselves within the confines of the police station – as long as they lock up their guns separately from the ammo.
>> 9 shooting bystander victims hit by police gunfire
9 victims hit by police gunfire shot the bystander.
Good lord.
Sounds like the Keystone Cops to me....
“Good shoot?”
It was a defensible shoot, but not a good one. Poor marksmanship most likely stemming from lousy training.
I guess NYPD has never heard of IDPA?
Anyone know what type of ammo NYPD uses?
I guess the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy has lost another client.
Video shows him clearly pulling his weapon and pointing it in the general direction of the two responding officers. But it's hard to tell what one of them was shooting at, it didn't look like his weapon was pointed at the perp at all. Perp never fired a shot at the officers, and went down hard when shot.
I am not certain that the cops were entirely at fault for this one. You see, their issue weapons have 13 lb triggers - that is, it takes 13 pounds of pressure to get the trigger to work. It is hard to make accurate shots when you have to fight your weapon to get every round off.
I do, however, blame NYPD’s policies and training. They’ve had notoriously atrocious firearms training/conduct policies for literally decades; the 13lb triggers were their ‘answer’ to keeping their officers from shooting each other with their then-new Glock pistols. Not better initial training, not better transition training, not discipline for screwing around with your sidearm in the squad room, not remedial training. A heavier trigger. Yeah, okay, that’s going to solve the problem. Not.
Before someone blames the Glocks, keep in mind that in the 1970s and 1980s, before the Glocks were adopted, the NYPD issued double action revolvers. And the officer ‘accidental discharge’ rate was about the same even with those.