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To: Tired of Taxes

Because you claimed I was defending or excusing such which include burning, overturned police vehicles, etc.

Can't you see that? I excused no such things.

As far as the irony you were pointing towards, yeah, I got that part right off the bat. No need for you to have to explain it. I can well enough imagine you posted that with a smug little smile on your face, too.

What is actually more ironic, while you continue to post against crime in general, mentioning your own car being broken into, etc., the "hate crimes" this group have been convicted of, could hardly have occurred.

That is, unless the mocking of Putin's recent exploitation of the Church in using it as campaign backdrop "scenery" (both physical & conceptual) and the mocking of some of the "religious" in the blind following of the man, can be best interpreted and defined as "hate".

Which ends up with YOU supporting the hate crime legislation! Even as it was misapplied! How's that for irony?

It's not like Putin's electoral competition ran on a pro-crime platform, either. But he did paint his opposition as being of the lawless profane sort such as these punkers.

You seem to keep trying to do the same thing, to me.

The inherent irony, the reality turned inside out, is obviously lost upon you.

It's a good thing you have decided to have made your "last reply" to me concerning this. The hole you dig just keeps getting bigger.

185 posted on 08/25/2012 12:08:43 PM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: BlueDragon
Because you claimed I was defending or excusing such which include burning, overturned police vehicles, etc. Can't you see that? I excused no such things.

You have defended/excused their "protest" inside a cathedral even though they were disrupting everything and using foul language.
Here are the other activities you've defended:

You've defended their interruption of the court hearing (according to the translation, they were using profane language there, too):

The trial they disrupted... interrupting the hearing set to send 2 leading curators of contemporary critical art in Russia to prison. needed interrupting. Simply respectfully "protesting" outside wouldn't accomplish diddly squat. That action most certainly WAS civil disobedience.

You defended their pranks:

The one with the guy running on foot over the top of the "KGB" political police official's car qualifies as a form of civil disobedience. It was funny in a way. The guy making a fool of himself did a good job of making a fool of the political minders/ political police.

You defended the women for walking up to and forcibly kissing policewomen who quite obviously were trying to fight them off:

The girls kissing other girls -- whom cunning fish termed "attacks on police cadets" --- were "attacks" of unasked for hugs and kisses. Oh the horror!

You have been consistently defending this group.

I can well enough imagine you posted that with a smug little smile on your face, too.

Not so. I'm not smiling at all. Discussions on the internet can be very frustrating because no one really knows each other and cannot see each other (therefore, cannot read facial expressions). So, everyone fills in the blanks with their own imagination, whether we realize we're doing it or not. When you read what I've written, you imagine me smiling smugly. And, when I read your posts, I hear the voice of Stewie on Family Guy. That's why these types of discussions never get anywhere.

Which ends up with YOU supporting the hate crime legislation! Even as it was misapplied! How's that for irony?

I oppose "hate crime" legislation because all crimes are hate crimes. IMHO, public disturbance and harassment are bad enough. I don't care what reason this group used for their public disturbance. I don't care if they were poking fun at the church (which they were) or criticizing Putin. Based on their other despicable behaviors (for example, having public sex as a form of protest), I wouldn't care if their message was the opposite of left-wing, and they were protesting in favor of traditional marriage and against abortion.

When I first heard the story, I was on their side... but decided to do some digging. When I found out what they actually did in the cathedral, I thought two years was too excessive. When I found out the maximum they faced was seven years - and that the prosecutor asked for three - two years didn't sound so long. And then when I found out about their other "performances" in public, the story was complete - it's obvious they've been a nuisance, and the public probably wanted to catch them on something and teach them a lesson.

There are other real cases of innocent people being thrown into prison wrongly in other countries (and in our country, too). The only reason these women are receiving so much international support is that they're left-wing.

186 posted on 08/26/2012 1:40:39 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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