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To: Tired of Taxes; cunning_fish
But what were they on trail for? Not those other things.

I still don't see the "vandalism" and "desecration" in the cathedral that another here was claiming, either.

The horror.

How dangerously disobedient. Wannabe, power-tripping rent-a-pigs everywhere, are enraged by such conduct.

But that's the only thing they faced trial for. Chew on that for a while.

From the links... One showed some government vehicles burned. Now that is a bit of "havoc". Were the girls on trial for that? I DIDN'T THINK SO.

The rest is disruptive, but not quite "havoc". The trial they disrupted... interrupting the hearing set to send 2 leading curators of contemporary critical art in Russia to prison. needed interrupting.
Simply respectfully "protesting" outside wouldn't accomplish diddly squat. That action most certainly WAS civil disobedience. Yet how exactly did they get all that equipment into a court-like hearing room? Inquiring minds would like to know.

The one with the guy running on foot over the top of the "KGB" political police official's car qualifies as a form of civil disobedience. It was funny in a way. The guy making a fool of himself did a good job of making a fool of the political minders/ political police.

The girls kissing other girls -- whom cunning fish termed "attacks on police cadets" --- were "attacks" of unasked for hugs and kisses. Oh the horror!

Do you guys ever listen to yourselves talk? jailed forever?

147 posted on 08/22/2012 8:39:25 PM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: BlueDragon

Do these people complaining about Putin ever complain about the Saudis’ treatment of women?


148 posted on 08/22/2012 8:41:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BlueDragon
But what were they on trial for? Not those other things.

Yes, that's true. Who knows why they weren't charged for other crimes. But, in any case, under the law, they faced a maximum sentence of seven years for this one crime. They were sentenced to two years - far less than the maximum.

I can't find the group's position on hate crime legislation. To be honest, in searching for it, some of the websites are just too vile. But, considering the group's left-wing politics - according to Wikipedia, they oppose abortion restrictions and support "LGBT" issues - it wouldn't be surprising if they themselves support hate crime legislation (oh, the irony of it all).

Anyway, why are people so supportive of these women? Is it because they're "girls" - more specifically young women in their 20's? They probably look harmless as they skip away from the security guards at the cathedral. Here's a website with more info on what they were singing about and the words they were using.

Suppose these were men doing the same thing? Would they have come across as so harmless? Would so many people be as supportive? Consider how the women were walking up to police women to forcibly kiss them. Would men get away with doing the same thing? We might not have even heard the story if not for the name - PR.

155 posted on 08/22/2012 11:29:34 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: BlueDragon

You may be both right and wrong.

AFAIK group claimed it’s responsibility for burning a truck but no one was prosecuted for this act because authorities had no evidence to charge any exact person.

They were prosecuted for public pornography, throwing cats at McDonalds, their “performance” in courtroom and damaging another police car, thus they weren’t sentenced to any real jail time.

I got your point but that is your achilless heel vs this kind of agitators.

These people are targeting public morals and institutions designed to defend it. It may look pretty innocent at the very beginning but if you won’t stop it at that moment it won’t be that funny in near future.

Their idea is to make unrest a fact of daily life and accepting it will bring followers. Burning a government vehicle and desecrating church by one group today may lead to full scale attack on public institutions and burning down dozens of churches tomorrow.

“Girls kissing girls” is not innocent. I haven’t seen if one was pleased with such an attack.

44% of Russians supporting this trial simply knows a history of their country.


156 posted on 08/23/2012 12:24:10 AM PDT by cunning_fish (.)
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