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To: DoughtyOne

“And that’s only natural. I share your concern. Of course you have more vested in it, but I still believe Israel is the chosen nation of God. I do not think He is going to abandon it.”

Yes, but I believe that in spite of the Holocaust, which begs the question: How many more such detours are we in for? We’re not abandoned, but G-d has already caused some extreme things to happen while not abandoning us. I could do with out any new ones, such as an idiotic war with Egypt, Syria, Iran or any combination thereof, and the attendant dead teenagers who thought they were John Wayne.


52 posted on 08/22/2012 3:49:34 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
And that’s only natural. I share your concern. Of course you have more vested in it, but I still believe Israel is the chosen nation of God. I do not think He is going to abandon it.

Yes, but I believe that in spite of the Holocaust, which begs the question: How many more such detours are we in for? We’re not abandoned, but G-d has already caused some extreme things to happen while not abandoning us. I could do with out any new ones, such as an idiotic war with Egypt, Syria, Iran or any combination thereof, and the attendant dead teenagers who thought they were John Wayne.


When I respond to comments like these, it can sometimes appear that these things don't cause me much concern.  I address them academically.  That doesn't always express my overall thoughts on certain events.  You need to know that.

In response to you, you are in for the detours God deems necessary.  That's not going to be comforting unless you are well grounded in your faith.  The Holocaust was something God allowed [didn't cause], but it resulted in the nation of Israel coming into being once again.  He may allow future things to happen, for similar reasons.  We may not even grasp why.  In the end, it won't matter.

Could you do without Israel?  Out of pain comes birth, growth, rededication, resolve, a return to core beliefs as a people.

What happened in the Holocaust was a blight on human civilization.  The whole concept repulses me in ways few things do.  None the less, you are able to look at something that came out of it.

Imagine living in Russia, China, or Cambodia, watching the deaths of millions or tens of millions of individuals, where nothing good resulted.

I personally can't dismiss the fact that God watches over you.  This is actually a core point of my faith. 

So the Israelis have both my profound sympathy for what has taken place in the past, and my appreciation for what God has facilitated for you and continues to facilitate for you.  It makes me realize that He still intervenes on our behalf, Jews/Israelis, Christians, and others who associate with us.

All the best...



53 posted on 08/22/2012 4:41:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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