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To: DoughtyOne

Imminent, no. Highly likely, yes. I wish I shared your optimism about Egypt and Syria, or your assurance that Arabs will do what is rational. They are, on the one hand, thoroughly opportunistic and Macheiavellian to the umpteenth degree. That’s their good point, such as it is. On the other hand, if they’re riled up enough, they are highly prone towards wildly irrational violence.

The MB exists to rile up Muslims. It was founded by a Muslim who got real upset because there were dancing girls shaking their fannies at a British military canteen. It has been inciting pogroms, riots and wars ever since.

It’s now in power in several countries, most notably Egypt, our neighbor, which now has tanks in the Sinai. If Egypt should decide, in a state of religious exuberance following a particularly gory Copt crucifixion, to go to war with Israel, it is dead certainty that Basher Assad will join in, and Saudia’s informal agreement to not look up while Israeli planes are flying to Iran will be in abeyance. To permit it then would cause the King to lose face, you see. For the UN Security Council (which normally can’t agree on the color of s@#%) to fail to pass a resolution condemning the raid would then be unthinkable, perhaps this time with real sanctions to back them up.

It’s all very well to speak of a quick victory by Israel and the collapse of Assad’s regime, thereby fracturing Syria’s alliance with the Shiites in Lebanon and Iran. That’s what the news that happens on TV will talk about.

But I have a nephew in the IDF (I’m his sandek, which is sort of like a godfather), plus my good friends who immigrated from India at the same time we came from America have their only son in uniform now. My son’s tutor from last year is also wearing green and carrying heat. Even quick victories can have some highly personal consequences. Every time I see infants like them strutting down the street with their guns, packs and walky talkies, the prospect of war becomes ever more painful.

I live in Judah and Samaria. The Left would love to bulldoze the lot of us and send us packing. They may get their wish, even if we beat Egypt and Syria yet again, and bomb Iran. Perhaps especially then.

Hopefully an angel will appear from on high and stay the hand of somebody or other from sacrificing these modern-day Isaacs on this unworthy altar. But I doubt it.


49 posted on 08/22/2012 3:00:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Imminent, no. Highly likely, yes. I wish I shared your optimism about Egypt and Syria, or your assurance that Arabs will do what is rational. They are, on the one hand, thoroughly opportunistic and Macheiavellian to the umpteenth degree. That’s their good point, such as it is. On the other hand, if they’re riled up enough, they are highly prone towards wildly irrational violence.

I don't make the claim that Arabs will do what is rational.  I think they will do what they percieve as in their best interest.  Watching their fellow brethren, get obliterated for their trouble, tends to make people think better of following the same path.  That's all.  I don't disagree with your characterizations here.  I think thy are entirely rational.

The MB exists to rile up Muslims. It was founded by a Muslim who got real upset because there were dancing girls shaking their fannies at a British military canteen. It has been inciting pogroms, riots and wars ever since.

I agree with this too.  And in time I do expect the MB to be a serious threat to Israel.  I say this, because I am not convinced the MB entites across the region are autonomous.  I think they are related, calculating, and receiving direction from much more radical leaders than most folks think they are.

It’s now in power in several countries, most notably Egypt, our neighbor, which now has tanks in the Sinai. If Egypt should decide, in a state of religious exuberance following a particularly gory Copt crucifixion, to go to war with Israel, it is dead certainty that Basher Assad will join in, and Saudia’s informal agreement to not look up while Israeli planes are flying to Iran will be in abeyance. To permit it then would cause the King to lose face, you see. For the UN Security Council (which normally can’t agree on the color of s@#%) to fail to pass a resolution condemning the raid would then be unthinkable, perhaps this time with real sanctions to back them up.

I don't like the tanks in the Sanai either.  I do see it as a testing of Israel.  "Lets see what we can get away with."  I do think Israel has counter-measures for those tanks.  If Egypt were foolish enough to try to use them, I think the remaining tanks would return to their proper location in Egypt in short order, with their tourets between their hind treads.

It’s all very well to speak of a quick victory by Israel and the collapse of Assad’s regime, thereby fracturing Syria’s alliance with the Shiites in Lebanon and Iran. That’s what the news that happens on TV will talk about.

Honestly, the end results of a Syrian collapse is anybody's guess.  Your thoughts are equally or better related to my own.  I'm not trying to imply otherwise.  I offer my thoughts, but even the experts aren't sure what the heck the results will be.

But I have a nephew in the IDF (I’m his sandek, which is sort of like a godfather), plus my good friends who immigrated from India at the same time we came from America have their only son in uniform now. My son’s tutor from last year is also wearing green and carrying heat. Even quick victories can have some highly personal consequences. Every time I see infants like them strutting down the street with their guns, packs and walky talkies, the prospect of war becomes ever more painful.

And that's only natural.  I share your concern.  Of course you have more vested in it, but I still believe Israel is the chosen nation of God.  I do not think He is going to abandon it.  I see Islam as the religion of the anti-Christ, and it's my take that our God is real, and theirs is an agent of a being that has already been defeated by our God.

I live in Judah and Samaria. The Left would love to bulldoze the lot of us and send us packing. They may get their wish, even if we beat Egypt and Syria yet again, and bomb Iran. Perhaps especially then.

There is that dynamic too.  I understand that.  I can only tell you that I care what happens to you folks.  I don't fully understand some of the dynamics of what takes place in Israel.  I can tell you that I am fully in support of Israel and it's citizens.

Hopefully an angel will appear from on high and stay the hand of somebody or other from sacrificing these modern-day Isaacs on this unworthy altar. But I doubt it.


In time, better than that will happen.  Until then, we are to endure.

I note that the Arabs that like to call themselves Palestinians are sick and tired of their leadership too.  That seems to be an epidemic in the region doesn't it.  Too bad these people couldn't take note of Israel, it's success, and desire to emulate it, rather than destroy it.  None the less, we know that's not going to happen.


51 posted on 08/22/2012 3:35:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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