Posted on 08/19/2012 11:45:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Every year, about two million Indonesians leave Islam for Christianity. Other Indonesians leave Islam and adopt other religions or become agnostics or atheists.
This trend is likely to continue in Indonesia, and all across the Islamic world. I do believe many of the larger Islamic countries will “officially” leave Islam by 2030. Islam is a barbaric religion that imposes its will on the individual. People may take that for a while. Then rebellion comes. Then revolutions that dig out the stump of the tree of Islam from its roots, and cut that stump into minute pieces. It will never see life again. I see that already happening in our days in Iran as well as Indonesia.
Because of that, Muslims try to create entities to postpone Islam’s death. Those ignoramouses do not know what is good for them. One such group is in Indonesia. They are known, at least for now, by the name “Save Maryam”. Make no mistake, this is an evil group that seeks to force Islam on everyone’s throat. The video below is supposedly one of theirs
The “Save Maryam” video is at the link.
But Egypt has moved closer to Islam, not away from it.
WHUUUUT???!?
Neat.
One thing I always noticed.... there were no Muslims in Star Trek, praise Allah. lol
Of course other science fiction offers a more cheerful future: Niven and Pournelle's The Mote in God's Eye offers a future in which mankind has reorganized itself into a revival of the Christian Roman Empire.
I don’t believe this article for a second. Spain has a better chance of becoming predominantly zoroastrian in the same time period.
Trends can change in a heartbeat. I wish I shared your optimism, but I've watched the people in Iran, Egypt and Afghanistan cheer while they closed their minds and voluntarily stuck their own necks into the noose of radical islam. I believe we are headed towards a very bloody denouement between the forces of radical islam and what's left of Western civilization.
Isn’t going to happen. They kill everyone, before they let go of Indonesia. You’ll know when they think things are critical thee, because you’ll see a HUGE influx of foreign jihaids flood the country.
“Bread And Circuses” certainly had a Christian theme.
Point is that there is an organized movement to defame Christan's in Indonesia under the guise of “Save Maryam”. Very disgusting stuff, IMO.
Makes me kinda wonder if the next war will me Moslems attacking Mexicans, who prefer to follow the ideology of Azlatin (sp?)
The US southwest, all of Ca, most of southern Nevada and possibly AZ and Nm will be given to Mexico.
The Reqonquista may be more fact than fiction (Matthew Bracken)
It never made sense to me why islam, an insane arab desert death cult, took hold in south east asia. I dunno if they’ll really leave but I hope so. To anything else.
gelak gelak gelak I doubt it- I think these so-called "converts" are not in apostasy from islam; just that they never really picked it up which I seriously doubt...
or best possibility is that they are 5th columnists.
Ask any Christian Indo emigrant who fled the church burnings and bombings, rapes and killing by moslems in Indonesia now living in the USA: they will tell you it`s all BS.
Some muslims supposedly "convert", then emigrate to USA only to spy on the churches here and report back home so the govt and groups can harrass their families.
I was witness to so-called "converts" in a Indo Cathloic church in California and EVERYONE in the congregation knew that they were SPIES because they always were going back and forth to the Indo consulate in San Francisco and LA
The only true converts are the ones whose familiies have been in Indo for over 400 yeas.
My Indo friends tell me "They are making fun of Catholics-They are laughing at us by doing this! Hajetawa tawaken." gelak gelak gelak-One said to me just now, "I don`t believe it! I have never seen any moslem convert to Christianity in 60 years since I am living here in Jakarta."
600 churches have been destroyed by burnings and bombings in Indonesia since 1972, not counting the seminaries and the homes and businesses of Christians burnt to the ground.
If these "converts" are being allowed to emigrate to USA, it`s a 5th column right in our midst. I am warning all of you NOW! It`s pure propaganda and BS.
I was associated with the the Northern California Indonesian Cathoilic Community for 20 years and I know what I am talking about.
Islam, like liberalism, finds fertile ground in shallow soil.
Dennis Miller? Is that you?
sorry-mispelled
Northern California Indonesian Catholic Community
The answer is simple:
The kings in those countries were bribed with untold wealth and markets for their goods, and if the king and his aristocracy converted, then the masses followed, either by propaganda or sword.
The way Islam is set up is if you don’t submit, you become a 2nd class citizen and have to pay the dhimmi tax, so people just convert out of convenience.
If the West ever stops being apologetic for its success and advancements, what you predict may come true. Perhaps islam may eventually really overstep and incite the West and Christianity to respond. But I'm not hopeful because we are so damned PC about islam. And how will we eradicate radical islam? Maybe destroying Mecca would do it, but that alone won't be enough.
I’m curious if any Islamic country has ever left Islam. Spain was controlled and broke free, but I’m not sure I would have considered it an Islamic country.
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