I guess Mr. Raub was under the mistaken impression that The Constitution he fought to defend, was still in effect. Silly boy!
Wouldn't exactly call some of that "patriotic," but whatever.
> The agent asked about whether her son was violent, Thomas
> explained that he was not, but that he loves his country.
> She asked the FBI agent if freedom of speech still exists
> in the United States.
>
> “Yes we still have freedom of speech”, Grainger
> reportedly said.
All is well, then.
‘Truther’ dude gets taken away in a paddy wagon. Was a straight jacket mentioned?
WTF?
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"I have some disagreements with the Kennedy Administration and I am letting Americans know about them," said former U.S. Army Major General now civilian, conservative activist and anti-communist Edwin Walker. "Put him in the asylum," ordered JFK and RFK.
Gen. Walker "resigned his commission after being publicly and formally admonished by President John F. Kennedy (JFK). [Civilian, conservative activist and anti-communist Edwin Walker] was an attempted assassination target of Lee Harvey Oswald on April 10, 1963 . . . [Walker] was temporarily held in a mental institution on orders from President Kennedy's brother, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy. RFK demanded that Walker receive a 90-day psychiatric examination. . . [but a] coalition of liberal and right-wing leaders [forced] Attorney General [Robert Kennedy] . . . to back down, and Walker spent only five days in the asylum . . . ."
I might add.. Walker's conservative and anti-communist views caught the wrath of that era's MSM and they published lie after lie about him including that he led violent attacks on blacks at a Mississippi university. Walker sued but the SCOTUS ruled the the wire service (AP I believe) simply made a mistake. I think that when General Walker reached his 80s the Congress granted him the retirement that he forfeited when he resigned his commission to fight against communism in the U.S.
Walker was a W.W.II special forces hero and Korean War vet. (He led the troops at Little Rock, Ark. school integration under orders from President Eisenhower 1959, IIRC.)
My emphasis above.. if this Marine is being treated like JFK and RFK treated Edwin Walker we damn well better see to it that the Marine gets the same protection that Edwin Walker got. Even the ACLU helped Walker back then. Now?
Conservative: Disagree with what he said, but defend his right to say it.
Leftist: Agree with what he said, but arrest him anyway to shut him up. (Making us look bad.)
I wonder if LE somehow linked him to the group.
If he is an active soldier and this were a military matter, then why is the FBI, Local Police and Secret Service involved? Shouldn't he have been arrested by Military Police rather than Federal civil authorities and local police?
I have a feeling that sooner or later they will be tracking down everyone on Free Republic and giving all of us the same treatment.
The guy doesn’t need a jail cell. He needs a doctor.
I would like to see exactly what it was that the Marine in question posted. If there were threats of violence against specific persons or institutions, that would explain much. People make all kinds of loony truther posts and don't get locked up for it.
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Want the FBI to come to your house and take you away either to jail or a mental hospital? These are purportedly the FB posts of USMC veteran Brandon Raub, arrested at his house on 8-16.
1) I feel like I am standing at a great crossroads. As if a storm of destiny is about to pick me up and take me to fight a great battle. A battle I could have never imagined existed. 7/24/12
2) We MUST rise up an...d take our country back. 7/30/12
3) I am standing against a great evil. I will do it all by myself if I have to. 8/4/12
5) This is the part where I tell the Federal Government to go fuck itself. This is the part where I tell Generals, training our young men to fight Americans, I am coming for you. The Veterans will be with me. 8/9/12
6) I’m starting the Revolution. I’m done waiting. 8/10/12
7) Sharpen up my axe; I’m here to sever heads. 8/13/12
8) The Revolution will come for me. Men will be at my door soon to pick me up to lead it. 8/14/12
9) The Revolution is here. And I will lead it. 8/14/12
I would guess that the FB posts he made in the past week were reported to LE at some level, thence to FBI and local police. So it might not be a result of 24/7 govt spying, but a worried FB “friend” or relative. Post Aurora, I think more folks are on a hair trigger looking for the next James Holmes nutcase who was sending out red flares unnoticed until he acted.
When you start posting, “I’m sharpening my axe to sever heads” and “I’m going to start this off if I have to do it myself,” or “I’m coming for those Generals myself,” it turns into an area of threatening violence that the FBI can find “actionable,” especially post Aurora, then the Sikh massacre, then the Family Research Center (which would have been a massacre not for the alert guard).
Of the three cases above, Holmes was pure apolitical nutcase (as far as I can tell), The Sikh killer was a raving National SOCIALIST, and the FRC was a raving LGBT LEFTY. (Note to the MSM: Keep trying, sooner or later there will be a Tea Party raving mass-murderer, but so far, not yet.)
And to any of my Constitutional conservative friends, if you start to overtly threaten that YOU are about to do violence, expect to talk to some gentlemen from the FBI. That was what was so “actionable” (to my understanding) in this case.
Raub was saying “me” and “myself” and “I” an awful lot in those posts. Cleary implying HE was about to do something. If you are pissed off about the fedgov, as am I, speak in the future tense about events that might happen. That is clearly okay, as certified by the Small War Journal essay l ast week about the “Evil White Racist Tea Party Militia” taking over South Carolina, leading to the intervention of the US Army to save the USA.
Or do as the leader of the New Black Panther Party does it, and just say things on camera like “Some day you black men are gonna rise up, and skin you some peckerwoods alive.” That all seems to be protected speech. But if you say, “I am a ticking bomb about to explode,” you will be speaking to LE quickly. Unless you are a member of the NBPP, or so it seems.
Had he identified himself as a “Black Panther” he would have be ok!
Apparently the Marine couldn't just be interviewed and call it a night. He had to punch somebody.
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This is just a sidenote. Anyone ever notice how the police or SWAT team or agents, etc mill about a suspect’s house after a raid and confer in groups or strut around on the front lawn? Eventually this tactical error will get remedied, but until then, grouped together like fish in a barrel for a secondary assault element isn’t too smart.
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