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Why Race Is Still a Problem for Mormons
New York Times ^ | August 18, 2012 | John G Turner

Posted on 08/19/2012 9:25:25 AM PDT by greyfoxx39


.................In a June 1978 letter, the first presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints proclaimed that “all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color.” Men of African descent could now hold the priesthood....

The revelation may have lifted the ban, but it neither repudiated it nor apologized for it. “It doesn’t make a particle of difference,” proclaimed the Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie a few months later, “what anybody ever said about the Negro matter before the first day of June of this year, 1978.”

McConkie meant such words to encourage Mormons to embrace the new revelation, and he may have solemnly believed that it made the history of the priesthood ban irrelevant. But to many others around the country, statements of former church leaders about “the Negro matter” do, in fact, matter a great deal.

The church would benefit itself and its members — and one member in particular, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee — by formally repudiating the priesthood ban and the racist theories that accompanied it.

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The priesthood ban had sweeping ecclesiastical consequences for black Mormons. They could not participate in the sacred ordinances, like the endowment ceremony (which prepares one for the afterlife) and sealings (which formally bind a family together), rites that Smith and Young taught were necessary to obtain celestial glory.

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Most Protestant denominations, however, gradually apologized for their past racism


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Indiana; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blackvote; brighamyoung; faith; hereitcomes; inman; ldschurch; liberalism; racebaiters; racism; toldyaso
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To: PapaBear3625

So who are you voting for then, that’s not Romney.


141 posted on 08/19/2012 4:29:50 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: kanawa

Mormonism points people away from God Almighty, so that’s not a concern for you - got it.
At least we know where your priorities lie.


142 posted on 08/19/2012 4:31:31 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought we were electing a president, not a high priest, pope or synod leader

Mr. Obama is almost assuredly a Muslim
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and I thought we were electing a president, not an Imam...

Mr. Romney is most assuredly a Mormon bishop and high priest...


143 posted on 08/19/2012 4:32:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: kanawa

What God would that be?
Mormonism teaches many Gods.


144 posted on 08/19/2012 4:33:21 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Wow. And you play the jackass card.

What in the article is incorrect?


145 posted on 08/19/2012 4:35:23 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Altura Ct.

What in the article is incorrect?
I’ll let you run in circles with your hysteria before you answer.


146 posted on 08/19/2012 4:37:22 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: PghBaldy

You don’t know many Mormons do you, they are really good a victim-hood, just read their publications.


147 posted on 08/19/2012 4:40:25 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: roylene; Mike Darancette; trisham
I preferred to take Mike's comment to be aimed at the nickname for the NYT...”The Old Grey Lady”.

I hope I was correct.

148 posted on 08/19/2012 4:41:09 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: roylene

Anna, Priscilla, Chloe, Phoebe, Junia, Miriam, Deborah, and Huldah might disagree with you.


149 posted on 08/19/2012 4:42:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

You go ahead and vote for Barack and Joe and see where it gets you.


150 posted on 08/19/2012 4:44:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Mike Darancette
I preferred to take Mike's comment to be aimed at the nickname for the NYT...”The Old Grey Lady”. I hope I was correct.

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I believe that you were. I hope that you will accept my apologies, Mike.

151 posted on 08/19/2012 4:47:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but I don’t see you posting a thread about him and his beliefs, which is very telling to me and a lot of other FReepers, believe me!

Lol, I think JR has addressed romneybots like you, any your efforts to defend Mormonism.

"Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact."

152 posted on 08/19/2012 5:01:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just to pick one Deborah was a judge and general, look at the New Testament and the church structure.


153 posted on 08/19/2012 5:02:24 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessee Nana

Vet what a stupid and ignorant thing to say.
There is no correlation between not voting for Romney and voting for Obama.
Do you Romney supporters have anything positive to say about Romney beside he is not Obama?
I can give you a dozen reasons why I do not support Romney. apparently you have only reason to support him, he is not Obama.


154 posted on 08/19/2012 5:06:25 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: roylene; 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessee Nana
I can give you a dozen reasons why I do not support Romney. apparently you have only reason to support him, he is not Obama.

And frankly, roylene, that's more than enough.

155 posted on 08/19/2012 5:15:11 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: roylene

It’s like I’ve said before: If Hubert Humphrey were running against Adolf Hitler, which one would you get behind and support and ultimately vote for?


156 posted on 08/19/2012 5:15:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kid I dont remember Humphrey being a pro-abort who pushed same sex marriage onto the country...


157 posted on 08/19/2012 5:20:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: okie01; roylene

158 posted on 08/19/2012 5:21:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Humphrey because he is way more conservative than Romney ever dreamed.


159 posted on 08/19/2012 5:26:21 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: SpaceBar

LOL! Post of the day.


160 posted on 08/19/2012 5:43:03 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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