Posted on 08/17/2012 4:09:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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The DeKalb County medical examiner says a woman found dead in her home was killed by at least one of her five dogs.
Twenty-three-year-old Rebecca Carey spent her life rescuing animals, taking several into her home to keep them from ending up at animal control.
Carey’s best friend, Jackie Cira, went to Carey’s home when she did not show up for work on Sunday.
“There was a lot of blood,” Cira said. “And when first got there, it looked like she had fallen and hit her head.”
The DeKalb County medical examiner ruled Carey’s death was the result of dog bites.
Animal control took custody of the five dogs in the home – two pit bulls, two presas and a boxer mix.
Any dog that has bitten a person goes into a special isolation lockup at animal control.
Cira said she knows Carey’s dogs, and actually owned one of them, a therapy dog, at one time.
“Any dog she came into contact with, she brought out the best in,” Cira said.
Cira said she wanted the dogs she knew to be gentle to be spared punishment.
“I don’t know who did what, but I can say with certainty who did not,” Cira said.
Animal control’s interim director Tim Medlin told Channel 2’s Jeff Dore that the county can’t risk putting a killer dog with a family, and they have all been put down.
“We didn’t know which dog did which. I can’t be wrong. Not just myself, no one can be wrong in putting out a dog that possibly had to do with these type of injuries. I will not put another person at that kind of risk,” Medlin said.
Carey’s family declined to speak with Dore, but they issued the following statement:
"Rebecca Carey of Decatur was 23 years old and an avid animal lover. Since the second grade when she read the book Throw Away Pets she vowed to be a voice for all animals. She attended Georgia Perimeter College and worked at a veterinary clinic. Upon placing her first abandoned animal in a permanent loving home in 2003, she volunteered countless hours with rescue networks and animal shelters. There she did what she loved the most: rescuing animals from untenable situations to find them safe, loving homes."
It's a quick-hitting and effective ad and it should be widely disseminated...
Not many people own Presas but out of the 18 people killed so far this year buy dogs, ll were killed by PB or PB mix.
Both are born ignorant, but neither are born innocent, as everything is born inherently self-centered - otherwise in their helpless state they might not get the attention they need to get milk and other neccesities. Left to their own devices without discipline and instruction they would only grow more selfish and even dangerous, not less so, with age. Once physically able to act on their aggression both human and dog would do so, until stopped by a firm loving hand or by another more powerful aggressor. You know how to bite instinctively but you learn not to bite by getting bitten in response. Born innocent? Absolutely not. The belief that creatures are 'born innnocent' is what leads to problems in the first place, because it leads people to think discipline is uneccessary so long as things superficially seem to be OK- if little Johnny is kept apart from bad people he won't learn to be bad, and all that BS. Problem is, people and dogs are born to bite.
Dogs are by nature predators. They kill whatever they can catch and are allowed to kill. The sweet disposition of the poorly trained neighbor's golden retriever or lab is not so sweet to people who own rabbits or chickens or other small animals, because dogs are designed to kill animals and eat meat. People often assume their dog is sweet and innocent and forgo training because they don't see their dog's behavior when they aren't present and forget their dog is a natural predator, or worse- a bored untrained natural predator looking for stimulation or fun. An untrained dog is a dog that if he is trusted at all, is trusted blindly because he has been protected from temptation and has thus never been tested.
That their dog is sweet to them is well and good, until their dog slips out one day like a feral teenager and rampages through the neighborhood, or worse finds companions which lead to exponential trouble for the undisciplined. Coming home to find a neighbor's otherwise "sweet" dog who "would never hurt a fly" has killed not one, not two, but every single bird you owned just because it could, and is happily rolling in feathers in the henyard it tunneled into, is not a pleasant sight and not even all that uncommon, esp. for young energetic dogs that haven't been taught that nothing (however tasty it might look) is a target unless the human says it is.
Raccoons cause a lot of slaughter but sweet friendly dogs cause far more, quickly killing EVERYTHING in the pen because they aren't really there trying to get food, they just like to kill because it is fun. And sure enough, while you survey the damage and the blood, your neighbor insists the dog is innocent, because they have never witnessed what untrained dogs naturally do when they are not in sight of their owner. "He was such a fine, quiet boy who loved his mother, etc."
If she owned 5 rattlesnakes would you ask the same question? They're dogs, that is to say animals, and like the man said don't take the chance. I agree. To me one human life, even a moron like this woman is worth more than the lives of any number of easily replaced animals. (Now if she had an 0bama sticker on her car I might choose to save a cockroach over her, but that's a different topic)
Wow. I’m so stupid I would never have thought of that. Thanks for posting to an obvious idiot. And you did it in the middle of the night! Just for me.
/sarc
I work in rescue and that is total BS.
Are kids who end up in foster care ‘bad’ kids?
Most often kids and dogs who end up in the system have one thing in common — families who abandoned them.
You are so right. There are so many good dogs (including pits) who need rescue. Many are there through no fault of their own. And yet many rescuers refuse to acknowledge that some dogs are dangerous and should be put down.
“if you can breed a dog for size, color, coat, appearance, etc. why do you think that they CAN’T be bred for agressive behavior? “
You can. If you can breed a dog for “color, coat, appearance” why can’t you breed a dog for dog aggression and handling by people?
That is what pits were traditionally bred for. The dogs were fought and had to be handled by their owners even when injured. So yes, traditionally bred pits are dog aggressive but people friendly. Many dogs are dog aggressive and people friendly. It is up to their owners to control them.
Even Michael Vick’s dogs were like this which is why many could be rescued.
OTOH some gangstas are now breeding pits as attack dogs. An attack dog is just that - indiscriminately aggressive.
No. Apples and oranges. I would think it might be a little easier to do dental analysis on several dogs of differing breeds and sizes, as opposed to 5 nearly identical rattlesnakes...
Was not aware that humans and animals were identical in behavior and training methods. LOL.
Work with working type dogs much? Any? Every time I see a Rotty, Dobe, or GSD at a shelter, they are either said to be shy/not trusting (great potential for being a fear biter) or it says that they should only go to ‘experienced’ owners, or no kids, no other dogs. I can read between the lines of that, and no, I would say that most aren’t ‘bad dogs’ didn’t say that and sorry if you took it that way. A large number have been mistreated, and that is why they are that way. My last dog (before my current mali) was a WG/Czech import bred bitch that had been sold and brought back to the breeder. She was scared of her own shadow, but protective, great potential fear biter. It took about two years to get her confidence back, and she made a great dog. BUT, if she went to an average guy, not someone who has OB/bitework experience and knows how a dog works, it could have been a disaster just as quick. That is why a recommendation to get a working breed dog from a shelter for the average joe is IMO only, generally not a good plan.
Point is both are dangerous animals. There is no shortage of dogs to make it worth taking a chance on these.
Do you have a leash law where you live? If so, take photos and call Animal Control every time they turn that dog loose.
If you don’t have a leash law now would be a good time to work to get one passed.
My son has a wolf/Shepard hybrid.
His home owner's insurance company doesn't know that he has it and I've told him that if they ever find out out they will cancel his policy and he won't be able to get another one.
I can hardly wait for the day that animal dies but now my son tells me he wants to get another one when that happens!
He is a very good son but when it comes to wolf hybrids he has an absolute blind spot and refuses to listen to reason!
Yes, we have all the laws that would get this dog put away. I have a ton of pictures and security cameras. I have gone to the city and they say that they are aware of the problem, but they have to see the dog outside themselves. Good luck with that. Plus I have to be care since they are Holder's People and I could become a victim.
Bingo. They killed that woman out in California. But we will never know for sure.
One thing is certain, I love dogs - as well as cats. But I would never have a pit bull or a Presa Canario or Fila Brasiliero or anything like them.
Well as much as I hate to suggest this (and I know I’m going to get flamed!) you might want to cook up a super sized meatloaf burger mixed with rat poison for the beast and try to get it to him without anyone finding out.
Curious how they did the math (but it wouldn’t mean anything to me, I am terribly math challenged). But it’s an interesting list. One thing about Pit Bulls is I don’t know how they quantify what is a pit bull. Do they include Am Staffs, American Pit Bull, Bull Terrier and all of the other bully breeds? Also, wolf hybrids (which I am opposed to, and I know I will take some flack for saying that) but not sure how they decide if the animal is honestly a hybrid or simply wolfy looking but maybe they can tell with DNA now so they may be sure before they label it.
And husky, does that include Siberians, Malmutes and other norther breeds?
Just wondering.
I don’t know anything about Presas other than the little I’ve read and they don’t appeal to me. Of those breeds I wouldn’t have a problem owning one of the bully breeds if I knew where it came from and ditto a Rottie.
It really frustrates me when a dog that cannot make a suitable pet (at least for most homes and thus will take forever to place) takes up time, energy and money while perfectly delightful and placeable dogs are euthanized. And really, that is what happens. No room at the inn? The dog dies because there is no place to take it in.
I’ve known several people bitten by rescues and they always say, “Oh, it was my fault.” And when I hear what they did, I always think, “No, you did a pretty normal thing, the dog was going to bite *someone*.”
I did the math. I just divided the attacks by the fraction of the population to get a risk factor for individuals of the breed. Rottweilers came out the winner, but PBs are seriously dangerous too. Stick with collies and retrievers if you don't want to get bitten.
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