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To: Travis McGee

“fedgov pushes that hard”

I suspect it won’t be sold or presented as a “hard push”. They’ll propagandize it for all its worth: “Sniper Rifles”, “Domestic Terrorists”, “Militia”, “Anti-Government Outcasts”, “TEA Partiers”, “Bitter Clingers”, “Christians!”, “Anti-Government Forces”, ...

oh, wait, those are the current terms they are using.

They’ll turn up the volume of propaganda and turn down the volume on their efforts. They don’t even need to ban all guns, just the ones we need to be effective: Black, evil, assault weapons. Not duck hunting guns, just assault weapons. 1994 was an attempt at that and they got pretty far. If they actually had any more thought they’d gone all the way to success and permanently banned assault rifles. We were only lucky they didn’t.


359 posted on 08/14/2012 12:26:44 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: CodeToad

To do that in the media, they would need to silence talk radio, the internet, and FOX.

If they do that, under any pretext(s), it will be a signal that Hugo Chavez Time has begun, and the contract (1st Amd) has been busted apart.

My 16-year-old daughter saw this on Memebase.com: “The second amendment is more important that the first amendment, because if you have a gun, you can say anything you want.”

Even today’s teens “get” this.


364 posted on 08/14/2012 12:40:30 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad
I suspect it won’t be sold or presented as a “hard push”. They’ll propagandize it for all its worth....

Propaganda, while both effective and pernicious, is not determinative. It does have limits. And I think a survey of America's "gun culture" over the last hundred years is a pretty good indicator of those limitations.

368 posted on 08/14/2012 12:46:08 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: CodeToad; Travis McGee; Dead Corpse

“...just the ones we need to be effective: Black, evil, assault weapons...”

My friend, a skilled man with even an old WWII Enfield, Mauser, or Garand and the will and determination of a person fighting for their very life can create living hell for these folks. A scoped deer rifle as well. Any gun will get you a better gun.

Look at the little stamped metal WWII Liberator .45 pistol. It probably put more German 9mm MP38/40s, FG42s, G43s and Mauser rifles into the hands of partisans than we realized.

It’s the will, not the weapon.

They can ban, demonize, scream and caterwaul till the cows come home. If we roll over and play good doggie, they’ve won.

If we instead show that we’re willing not only to piss on their legs at every opportunity but also “sic balls, Chopper!!” how enthusiastic do you think they’ll be to play out their little fantasy when people on their side start waking up dead?

Sure, some folks will give up. Not everyone is a warrior, not everyone is a sheepdog. Pretty much always has been that way. I imagine that a good many folks during the American Revolution were as pissed off at the Patriots as they were at the Brits...and they did nothing except watch out for which flag to fly at the end of the day.

But there are others - millions of others - who will carry the fight right to the living rooms, bedrooms, restaurants, etc., where these cretins congregate. It would be “War to the knife and knife to the hilt.”

It won’t be easy, it won’t be cheap, and it won’t be painless. Idiots like this *sswipe who wrote the article don’t seem to understand that.

Those who let slip the dogs of war are often the most surprised when the other side lets their OWN dogs slip as well.

What’s that old saying - it ain’t the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog...or something like it?

And this piece IS pure agitprop; it was written to elicit exactly the reaction it’s getting out here, right now. Guarantee we have the other side trolling this thread, right now, taking and making notes.

That’s how they operate.


398 posted on 08/14/2012 2:01:46 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: CodeToad; All
1994 was an attempt at that and they got pretty far. If they actually had any more thought they’d gone all the way to success and permanently banned assault rifles. We were only lucky they didn’t.

No, it was not luck. It was hard work, organizing, and political payback. They lost both the House and the Senate. They thought it was impossible to lose the House, but it happened, and the MSM has been trading credibility for temporary power ever since.

They have lost on the gun control issue, and they are losing on the whole "big government is your friend" issue.

We simply have to keep pushing back and win this next election.

427 posted on 08/14/2012 3:29:32 PM PDT by marktwain
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