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To: Lucas McCain

So Romney choosing Ryan has made him a conservative man of honor, wiping away his decades of liberalism?
Or are we to hope that Romney fades away Ryan becomes the star after eight years of mostly liberalism under Romney, and that somehow Ryan can change everything.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 7:24:13 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: roylene

“So Romney choosing Ryan has made him a conservative man of honor, wiping away his decades of liberalism?”


You have trouble with reading comprehension? And thinking skill?

First, I stated or implied nothing about Romney except that he made a good choice for running mate. If Romney loses to Obama, which you evidently prefer, Ryan will effectively become the leader of the Republican Party.

Second, why don’t you Move Forward over to the Obama Campaign and help out making calls or something. They could use your support.

Oh, wait...you’re helping the Obama campaign right here on FR.


5 posted on 08/12/2012 7:32:46 AM PDT by Lucas McCain ("The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.")
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To: roylene

For the love of pete, put away your Obama 2012 signs. It’s absolutely disgusting.


9 posted on 08/12/2012 8:10:07 AM PDT by jb729
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To: roylene

I’m hoping that, with Obama gone and a conservative house and senate, our economy is saved and our national security is secured.

Then, in sight years, we can have a Ryan presidency and begin the push-back on the social issues.

With Romney, there is a good chance that he’ll follow the political winds and bend to conservative pressure. There is NO hope of Obama helping us.

What do you hope? For another four years of executive orders, a completely broken military, a bombed Israel, another four years of economic depression, etc?

Yes, I am voting for the less of two evils. But I’m starting to see that the liberals were right. They’ve advanced their cause gradually over 70 years with the ‘boiling frog’ technique and it’s working.

Standing on all-or-nothing principles has gotten us unlimited abortions for everyone, half the population on welfare, a socialist educational system, normalized every perversion, etc.


10 posted on 08/12/2012 8:12:01 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: roylene

Romney is not a conservative - or a liberal. He’s an opportunist who really, really wants to be President and has spent huge amounts of his personal fortune trying to get there in the eight years he has been campaigning.

When he was governor of MA, he really, really wanted to be governor - so he sided with the liberal issues popular with liberal MA.

None of his vaunted businesses have been his own - he was a wealthy man from a wealthy family with contacts and he was always part of a group in thses businesses. And he went with the flow.

I don’t think the selection of Ryan means that Romney has become a conservative. I think it means he sat down with his advisers, realized he was never going to get elected with a liberal message or, in fact, no message at all, which was really what he had. Remember that even during the debates, he would wait until somebody spoke before him, usually Newt, and got applause and then he would say “me too.”

And some how, miracle of miracles, the advisers got him to accept the one person who actually has defined conservative ideas and a plan, which Romney was woefully lacking.

So I’m going to wait and see. If Romney really lets Ryan speak and also supports Ryan’s plan, then I’ll vote for him (even though I don’t like the idea of letting a Mormon near the White House, but heck, we already have a non-Christian president).

However, if he does to Ryan what McCain did to Palin, which was to keep her at arms length, not support her and not adopt any of her ideas, I’m not voting for him.


11 posted on 08/12/2012 8:12:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: roylene
So Romney choosing Ryan has made him a conservative man of honor, wiping away his decades of liberalism?

People change. Sometimes flawed people do a good thing that can redeem them. Heck, sometimes unimpressive people do a very good thing for the wrong reasons.

Picking Ryan is a good thing. It means we really will be talking about debt, deficits, spending, etc. Personally I think it makes it more likely Romney will lose, but the Ryan pick will force what passes as the American public to make a real decision. Do we continue down the path of Europe, California, etc, or do we start thinking about living within our means.

17 posted on 08/12/2012 9:04:08 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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