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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: fabian; presently no screen name
I am conservative enough to believe a man that he has changed his heart.

How is that a conservative trait?

Clue: It's not. It's the trait of someone who has been drinking liberal kool-aid and wants to believe that he has had a change of heart.

There's nothing in his history that gives any credence to ANYTHING the man says. He's set the precedent. He simply cannot be trusted because he talks out of both sides of his mouth, telling anyone who will listen what they want to hear just so they will vote for him.

5,141 posted on 08/18/2012 11:43:40 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: fabian
I happen to believe the man as he sounds sincere to me


5,144 posted on 08/18/2012 11:49:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

What did you win?


5,145 posted on 08/18/2012 11:50:16 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stpio; Kevmo

There’s weird and then there’s stupio weird.

You’re weird weird.


5,146 posted on 08/18/2012 11:52:14 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Elsie; Kevmo

Likewise. Those were the days.


5,147 posted on 08/18/2012 11:54:30 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Elsie; Kevmo

Likewise. Those were the days.


5,148 posted on 08/18/2012 11:54:47 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
I now stand out in a crowd


5,150 posted on 08/18/2012 11:55:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: sf4dubya
You really are a nutter.

Only a nutter like you would post accusations against other FReepers like this on FR...I want the anti Mormon doctrine posts off political threads and in the religion forum. I certainly did not post those posts filled with anti-Mormon, Christian identity issue tripe... your words, stand by them.

5,151 posted on 08/18/2012 11:58:58 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Tennessee Nana, it's like the old Bugs Bunny cartoon with Yosemite Sam on the diving board. Bugs inches closer and closer to the end of the board, each time saying "I DARE ya to cross this line!" Like an idiot, Sam crosses and crosses and crosses, until he goes off the edge.

Every four years, the GOP-e inches conservatives closer and closer to the left, daring us to vote for someone else, or give up just "a little bit more" of our principles and vote for their pick.

5,152 posted on 08/18/2012 12:05:05 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: sf4dubya; colorcountry; Jim Robinson
SF4dubya:Anti-Mormonism is NOT a conservative principle.

FISCAL CONSERVATISM is.

WHY ARE YOU ON A CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE?

Only a MittBot would pretend to totally forget the opening post by Jim Robinson on this thread in which he said:

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

SF4, you have become a huge joke.

5,153 posted on 08/18/2012 12:06:17 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Good post, COBOL


5,155 posted on 08/18/2012 12:07:36 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Celtic Cross

1. Forget far from ideal, I would settle for a candidate who is not a socialist liar and deceiver. But, unfortunately, the GOP has the prevaricating socialist, Romney, all set to be nominated.

2. Romney is not what “we” have. Romney is what “they,” the republicans, have to offer. If you support him, he is yours. But there are many of us who have not fallen for his deception.

3. The only people crying and moaning and whining like little children are the ones practically begging those in the know to give up their principles and vote for the lying socialist. They want us conservatives to be silent and stop saying things (telling the truth) about him.

4. I don’t care who you vote for and I’m not trying to change your vote. But there is no way a lying socialist of any party is going to be allowed free reign to lie and deceive conservatives on a conservative forum without being challenged. From your statements, that fact is something you can’t stand. You want this to be a republican forum so you can force conservatives to shut up or leave. But, this is a conservative forum owned and operated by a conservative. Conservatives will not be silenced.

5. If the truth “hobbles” Romney, whose fault is that.


5,156 posted on 08/18/2012 12:08:26 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: presently no screen name

How would you know?


5,157 posted on 08/18/2012 12:13:34 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: sf4dubya

Why? Because it is important. Fiscal conservatism is important, vitally so. I also think social conservatism is necessary.
Why are you here?


5,158 posted on 08/18/2012 12:16:04 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: sf4dubya; colorcountry
ROTFL...are you ignorant enough to think that my mormonism posts are anything new to anyone on FR? Or that I try to hide them?

What a lot of time you have wasted...perhaps I should hire you as my press agent.

I REALLY wish you had made the post with live links for those folks who want to learn about Romney's religion. There is a wealth of information there.

BTW, if you think you can hide from YOUR posts....

I want the anti Mormon doctrine posts off political threads and in the religion forum. I certainly did not post those posts filled with anti-Mormon, Christian identity issue tripe

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5,159 posted on 08/18/2012 12:21:58 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: sf4dubya
Tamzee, you have absolutely nothing in your FR history that should make anyone think you should be the focus of a witch hunt by people who are pretty much here on this website to post anti-Mormonism articles.

Thank you. That doesn't appear to be relevant to the witch hunt, though, it feels like you are considered a witch just by disagreeing with the hunt taking place :-)

5,160 posted on 08/18/2012 12:28:31 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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