Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.
But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.
And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.
And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.
That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.
Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.
So you lied, the only thing with regards to religion for you is to troll on Mormonism, attack Christians, and make up something silly about Sikhs, who are a huge favorite group at FR.
The only religious criticism among freepers are the arguments between the various Christian denominations, of basically Protestant, Catholic, and a lot of Evangelical bashing, and then Mormonism, and Islam, and Scientology.
You simply lied about fighting to protect and defend all religions since the only one you are trolling for, is Mormonism.
This is actually quite an unsophisticated "reading" of a POTUS election.
Virgil Goode is on the Oregon ballot. In Oregon over 1 in 7 citizens are either an atheist or agnostic...and is one of the top two states % wise in non-church attendance.
A vote for Goode (instead of Romney) in Oregon won't matter.
Obama will take Oregon no matter WHO is voted for beyond that.
So it's the unsophisticates who fail to properly discern 'tween the blue states, the red states and the purple states.
There are about 14-15 obvious blue states (+D.C.); There's about 9-12 swing states -- depending upon who you're listening to...and the rest are red.
If 100% of FREEPERs voted for Goode or Tom Hoefling in the red states...guess what? Obama would STILL lose all those red states.
So, no, a vote for Goode is NOT a "vote for Obama."
The best case these unsophisticates can "hope" for re: this claim ... and one that would better result in a true interesting back & forth "dialogue" on this subject... would focus ONLY upon the "purple states"... and even there I've seen several good FREEPER comments on why a vote for third party cannot = a vote for Obama...in ANY state.
For example, ANY swing state Romney would win anyway...CANNOT mean that any "third party" votes accrued to Obama's benefit. (More unsophisticated poor vision)
Secondly, even if some third-party votes helped Obama take a given swing state, if Romney won more needed electoral votes in swing states than Obama -- enough to win the presidency -- then "No" -- even from that pragmatic utilitarian political relativist posture (a sick ethical position, I might add, for any long-term political health to a country)...those were NOT "votes for Obama."
Thirdly, note how these pragmatists don't reverse the pragmatic situation when it's obvious.
Both Romney & Obama are liberal; both are socialist healthcare pioneers; both are big govt statists; both embrace global warming nonsense; both have track records of seeking or actually placing liberal judges; both are pro-aborts.
Therefore, it's quite obvious: A vote for Romney in a blue state that Romney can't possibly win = a vote for a liberal, socialist healthcare pioneer, big govt statist, global warming, liberal judge appointing pro-abort...with no "anti-Obama" benefit to acrue -- and winds up opposing the conservative positions -- no matter how the relativists twist it...Yet you don't see these "third party votes = a vote for Obama" posters acknowledging this...why not?
Fourthly, even from a sheer "statistical" standpoint, if Obama doesn't get a vote, that's one less vote for him. It's statistical "madness" to claim that a "missing vote" for Obama somehow = a "vote for Obama."
Yes, it's true that if Romney loses "just enough" votes for Obama to win several states -- that gives Obama the overall victory -- that third-party candidates may have diverted votes.
But, hey...who gave us the liberal; socialist healthcare pioneer; big govt statist; global warming-embracer; liberal judge-appointer; pro-abort to begin with?
(The GoP-establishment) Just like they gave us Bob Dole. The GoP-E's "vote" for Bob Dole was a "vote" for Clinton...Just like the GoP-E's vote for Romney could wind up = ing a "vote" for Obama.
It’s so good to see you! You’re right...this is a crossroads. My hope and prayer is that conservatives will be so successful that Romney will have no choice but to acquiesce.
Did you see Romney’s speech in WI today? I’ve never seen him so energized...and conservative. He, actually, seemed to believe what he was saying!
Ryan is good for him.
My hope, too, is that Ryan will actually BE the President of the Senate, instead of looking at that title as a nothing burger tie-breaker. Should he desire, he could influence McConnell...in a good way.
If all else fails, the TEA Party has resources. ;o)
So it's the unsophisticates who fail to properly discern 'tween the blue states, the red states and the purple states.
I've jackhammered precisely that same point home to this site's (fortunately) few true ineducables no fewer than [::goes back and does a quick recount::] ELEVEN TIMES -- right here, on this very thread.
Nothing. Tabula rasa. Wind from the Void. It just rattles around in the vast, yawning caverns of their skulls, like a pair of ball bearings... and then plops right back out again.
Next time, I swear: I'm using finger puppets. ;)
If that is true, then I feel sorry for you.
Leftist thrive on hate.
Something to think about.
-—”We do not have the luxury of years...we need to remove Obama now...”
JeffHead - Wonderful quote. I think that’s what a few people are missing here (including JimRob) — and you said it so well: WE DON’T HAVE THE LUXURY TO WAIT OUT ANOTHER OBMAMA TERM in hopes of something better.
Having the Bork Obunga Marxist Regime thugs in charge for 4 more years will most likely destroy our republic as we know it.
Those Freepers who want to sit it out this election are “AWOL in the fight” and appear to be oblivious to the economic Obamageddon we’ll endure if they don’t vote.
My hope is that they’ll come around. There’s so much to be optimistic in Paul Ryan.
Next time, I swear: I’m using finger puppets. ;)
***No clever graphic this time? Finger puppet math sounds like it has potential...
"Even Homer nods." ;)
LOL, I guess you gave up lying about you defending all religions.
For years here at FR, anti-Christian bigots and anti-socons, have used Mormonism to attack and fight with Christians, we have seen them and the atheists suddenly become devoted to fighting for Mormonism like tigers, dedicating themselves to it, it is their proxy fight.
Almost everyone of them claims to be simply a defender of all (nonChristian) religion, but they never are, just like for you, Mormonism is the only one that they care to fight for.
It would be like an atheist, or a Hindu Jew hater, constantly fighting on behalf of Islam, the Jew hating religion, as a way to feed his bigotry, without being called anti-Jewish, as he throws his hands up and claims that although he isn’t Muslim, and never would be, that he is just trying to defend Islam from negative Jewish discussion, and that he does that for all religions.
“if they are stupid enough (and their doing so shows conclusively that they are) to quote scripture in defense of the documented actions of Romney, well...”
Hmmm, I can’t think of any scripture that promotes the homo lifestyle, homos adopting children, homos in the boy scouts, homos marrying, forcing Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, free birth control pills, etc., etc.
Romney is no Christian. And the Mormon church is not a church of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. But, if Romney was a Methodist, a Baptist, a Catholic, etc., he is still no Christian or he would not promote what I listed in the above paragraph.
I am not voting for him and I’m leaving it up to God to do His will.
BTTT! And thank you! ;o)
Amen.
I've noticed this too in the past but have never seen anyone mention it. One troll I was tracking later admitted that he was enjoying himself.
In the Book of KOS, if I'm not mistaken. ;)
If he did, what possible effect would that have on his ability to govern the country? I am much more concerned about Obama's religious beliefs to the extent they are represented by Rev. Wright (i.e., Marxist racist liberation theology), since they could seriously impact the polity of the country, than about Romney's Mormonism, so long as he is not pushing legalization of polygamy (which the current Mormon church does not support anyway).
I read this far and realized how you are totally uninformed or just clueless. Either way - you are just blowing hot air! I have no time for those who are deliberately blind.
Used to be if a presidential candidate told you that he was going to become a God and rule over his own planet of worshipers, and you could see that he meant it, it was a deal killer.
So the flavor of the week for the liberals is Mormonism, a Bishop no less! I was wondering - how do tell the twins apart - RomneyCare/ObamaCare?
If I were you, I'd just toe tag both of them and call it a draw.
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