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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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Comment #1,021 Removed by Moderator

To: presently no screen name

Considering I have has several of these mental giants tell me that RR would be an outspoken Romney supporter, I don’t think they will believe the truth.

Don’t know what fetish these people have to seek self humiliation online, but it must have a name.


1,022 posted on 08/12/2012 1:20:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: DRey

Doin great D. As for the wife, I’ll dig her up and ask. She’s been awful quiet for the past few years though...


1,023 posted on 08/12/2012 1:22:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: nicmarlo

Right. And Romney’s role, should he win, is nothing more than to consolidate Obama’s gains.

We don’t have time for this sort of foolishness any longer. Too many critical components of this nation are stretched too close to the breaking point.


1,024 posted on 08/12/2012 1:22:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Syncro
I'm sorry Syncro, I didn't realize you were challenged.

Of COURSE that didn't happen! Of COURSE I don't believe that.

Seriously, I wouldn't have been so direct with you if I had realized you were challenged. Go to bed. It's nighttime.
1,025 posted on 08/12/2012 1:23:28 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: DRey
LOL, I'm not backing down from anything I stated.

If Romney loses, the blood is on the hands of the GOP-e who wouldn't run a Conservative candidate that could beat Obama.

You are NOT going to save the world by voting for Romney!

The GOP elites are laughing at all of you, because they know if they don't give you an acceptable candidate, you will vote GOP anyway.

Not me.

The GOP is ready to lose just like the did with McCain.

They would rather lose with a liberal RINO candidate (like Romney) then win with a conservative candidate.

The blame goes to the GOP, not those that don't follow them like sheep to the polls.

1,026 posted on 08/12/2012 1:23:37 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: DRey

Read your post again, you admitted that Romney expects to become a God, and that you do as well.

Who will you rule over?


1,027 posted on 08/12/2012 1:24:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; GOPsterinMA; Syncro

I agree he’s a party loyalist (duh he’s chair of the Budget committee! A Michelle Bachman would never be given that gig). But he’s to the right of T-Paw/Romney/Bush/Cheney and not a double-edged sword like her unnamed majesty. Compared to past VPs and VP picks (an ocean of SUCK) this is a good one.

I’m not a rube, I am excited if you will, not because I have any particular faith in Ryan (I have none in ANY politco, period, kill all humans, Reagan only get’s a B/B+) but because I think he helps with the goal of removing Osama and if he’s elected won’t be pulling Romney to the left.


1,028 posted on 08/12/2012 1:25:13 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: caver

Go get stuck.


1,029 posted on 08/12/2012 1:26:04 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Gold Baby, Gold!)
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To: ansel12

You are fighting a losing battle with this one Ansel. Check her post history. Nothing you say will lead to productive conversation.


1,030 posted on 08/12/2012 1:26:14 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: EternalVigilance

A third party is not going to win at the national level. That’s a certainty. It will, however, take away from electoral votes from only one of two possible candidates who CAN win, Romney or Obama. I won’t contribute to the plan of putting a Marxist back into the White House because the GOP-e has picked another crappy statist with an “R” after his name for whom I must vote.

Now, if the Democrat was Zell Miller, I’d gladly vote third party because Zell would probably win and he’d be 90% better than Romney, but not with the certainty that the “D” who’s a Marxist will win with the same strategy.


1,031 posted on 08/12/2012 1:26:35 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: DRey

Are you sleep typing?


1,032 posted on 08/12/2012 1:27:15 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Well I'm sorry to hear that Norm. I really am. : (

Now you make me wish you didn't make it so easy to roll off the one-liners.

But great to hear you're doing well. I don't think I laugh so much in a year as I do in a single night of our mutual banter. What's next? Mormons? Bigots? Women who won't wear skirts?
1,033 posted on 08/12/2012 1:27:20 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: DRey
The rest of us will take care of saving America for our children's futures.

Don't think so highly of yourself that you can save anything! Pride comes before the fall.

1,034 posted on 08/12/2012 1:28:40 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ansel12

Ansell, seriously, are you challenged as well? Do you not know the difference between wanting to “become a God” and wanting to be like Jesus? If you do, we can talk. If you do not, go to bed. Fifth grade comes early for those that get no sleep.


1,035 posted on 08/12/2012 1:28:54 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: DRey

Hamsters. Evil ones.... (bad juju) ;)


1,036 posted on 08/12/2012 1:29:23 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: nicmarlo

I don’t see that he’s saying he’ll do whatever, and then consult scripture later. He said, he’ll do whatever he is able, and then as we are told (bid) by the scriptures, to “wait upon the Lord...”

______________________________________________________________

Again, I didn’t ask you, I asked Jeff to clarify because only he knows what he was saying. It sounded like he will act, do what he can, and then consult scripture, which is totally backward from what the bible teaches, and what too many people rely on. It’s up there with the idea of “God helps those who help themselves” which is no where in scripture and antithetical to it. We’re supposed to wait upon the Lord and then act. Not vice-a-versa. If more Christians waited upon the Lord before taking things in their own hands, I think we’d have a different world.


1,037 posted on 08/12/2012 1:30:06 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: sickoflibs
Wait a minute, I thought you where the RINO, or is it the True Conservative. I get so confused. Just like all us poor rubes that are so easily swayed by the Devil Bishop.

Get over yourself!

Romney isn't Reagan, but he sure as hell isn't Obama. Hell, Reagan isn't the Reagan most of us think he was.

I voted Gingrich in the primary and sent him $50 I didn't have. HE LOST. So did every other ‘conservative of the week’. THEY ALL LOST TO ROMNEY! What is done is done! Nobody forced all the TRUE CONSERVATIVES to sit on their asses and split their votes. That is how it worked out.

Now when Romney actually chooses a Conservative, we are all RINO’s and IDIOTS because we decided that four more years of Obama is probably a bad thing, even if we have to push Romney to a more centrist or conservative position, yeah, good thinking. You musta’ gone to one o’ dem fancy Ivory League Skools to think like that!

Well pardon us all to Hell. We be so stupid, of course more of the blue lipped Marxist is preferable. I should stay home and pout about the mean RINO establishment like you.

Thank you, NO! I believe I will vote, I will vote like a realist and a true American and an adult and not a whiny crying baby.

You have three choices,

1) Vote Romney/Ryan

2) Vote Obama/Biden

3) Vote third party or don't vote Either way it's a vote FOR OBAMA

I decided to vote Romney/Ryan.

For myself, my kids, and my country.

It really is that simple!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt87mXL_ftg

1,039 posted on 08/12/2012 1:30:43 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Syncro

Good night, sweetie.


1,040 posted on 08/12/2012 1:30:43 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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