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To: Lakeshark

They are unelectable.

Ryan may be right but he has already been defined as the ender of Medicare.

Mark my words: This will cost Romney 10 points and he will be in the high 30s through the election.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 7:54:54 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Paul Ryan’s Entitlement Reform (plan to tackle Medicare/Medicaid has some Dem support)

President Obama’s deficit commission continues to surprise. On paper, it appears to be failing—it looks increasingly likely that no proposal or idea will get enough members behind it to become an actual official recommendation of the commission. But the members’ efforts to avoid simply admitting defeat have produced some pretty interesting and valuable results. Last week, the co-chairmen released a serious (if of course far from perfect) proposal for deficit and debt reduction. Earlier this week, Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky (a Democrat, and one of the commission’s more liberal members) released her own plan, which mostly revealed a profound lack of seriousness among some liberal Democrats about deficit reduction.

Now, today, Rep. Paul Ryan (Republican of Wisconsin and soon to be chairman of the House Budget Committee) and Alice Rivlin (a Democrat, and former director of the Office of Management and Budget under Bill Clinton) released an excellent and very ambitious bipartisan plan for Medicare and Medicaid reform. The plan would not touch the Medicare benefits of people who are 55 and older today, but for anyone younger than that, the existing structure of Medicare would be transformed into a defined contribution program which, rather than directly paying for services in an open-ended way, would give each senior money toward the purchase of private health insurance.

Meanwhile, the federal share of Medicaid would be transformed into a block grant to the states, which would grow only in line with the Medicaid population and with growth in GDP per capita plus one percent—rather than in the open-ended way in which such funding grows today.

Rep. Ryan asked the CBO to score the idea and—as you might imagine given a request from a soon-to-be chairman of the Budget Committee—they did so in record time. Here is their assessment of the plan. It would make a major dent in the deficit, and help control the growth of health-care spending, which is the essence of our health-care dilemma and which Obamacare would thoroughly fail to do.

That Paul Ryan would propose such a good idea is hardly surprising. That he could get even a little support from the Democratic side of the commission is surely surprising, and a good sign.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/253503/entitlement-reform-yuval-levin


27 posted on 08/11/2012 7:56:12 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
This will cost Romney 10 points and he will be in the high 30s through the election.

I'm thinking you're wrong, big time.

We'll see, but this energizes the tea party nationally, puts the repeal of Obamacare on the table as a reality, and gives Mitt a charismatic running mate who is unflappable, and very capable of destroying Bambi's mumble mouthed platitudes. Take a look at how despondent Bambi was when Ryan took apart Obamacare in front of him. It's a sign of what will happen during the campaign.

31 posted on 08/11/2012 8:01:28 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
And, the curmudgeons come out of the woodwork!
36 posted on 08/11/2012 8:09:31 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

My first thought was this will cost Romney Florida which he would have won handily. I’m not so sure now how this will play out. He can always dump him if the poll numbers get really bad.


48 posted on 08/11/2012 8:36:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Thank you eeyore, but no one not even mcgovern gets numbers in the thirties. Stay off the drugs.


61 posted on 08/11/2012 9:29:57 AM PDT by DWC (historian)
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