Exclusive: Brigham Young’s Great-Great-Granddaughter on Mormonism and Mitt Romney

Daily Beast ^ | August 7, 2012 | Jamie Reno

[greyfoxx39]

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[doug from upland]

NOTE: this is coming from someone who neither likes nor supports Romney. I wanted Newt/Bachmann. And yet I am called a RomneyBOT and have been accused of contributing to his campaign.

God and family are important to me as they are to those who choose to participate in FReeRepublic. Did you get that name, Elsie? FreeRepublic. It means that besides caring about God and family, we care about this nation and its freedom. Let's show your words again for all to see. They are astounding.

ANOTHER FREEPER’S COMMENT TO ELSIE: when obama is done w/ this country there won’t be any rights left for any citizens be it men or women to worry about.

HER RESPONSE: So??? There are MANY countries like this around the world, and yet those ‘citizens’ of them STILL have to make ETERNAL choices of where their souls will end up.

Your response to the end of freedom is "so???" I think that pretty wells sums up what anyone who loves the United States needs to know about you. Your hatred of Romney and Mormons is more important than our freedom. That is just sick. How can anyone take seriously anything you say? Elsie has refused to answer whether this Catholic can make it to heaven if he doesn't hate the Mormons as does she.

[PA Engineer]

Nope to your ad hominem attack, however does this mean you are agreeing to the Freeper challenge. You have to get some skin in the game here by getting it done and making a donation.

This is an important question. Are you speaking for the posse on the fund raising challenge? Let's get it done and finish this quarter fundraiser. Your posse is woefully underrepresented amongst the donors, but overly represented amongst the spammers.

[NoGrayZone]

"Your response to the end of freedom is "so???" I think that pretty wells sums up what anyone who loves the United States needs to know about you. Your hatred of Romney and Mormons is more important than our freedom."

I believe, that we level headed conservatives, need to ignore these "lights on but nobody home" threads.

They are usually posted in the religion forum; however, this one was posted in news, hence the strong reaction against it.

I say let's no longer respond to their antics. Let them post the same copy and paste, as they usually do.

They can bask in their own hate fest, amongst each other.....as long as they post their hatred in the religion forum, in which where it belongs.

If they post in news/activism then lets have at it (as this one was surprisingly).

[PA Engineer]

Your hatred of Romney and Mormons is more important than our freedom.

This is one area that needs to be clarified. Their modus operandi is to silence all debate with cyber bullying, spamming and obfuscation.

They are proven to be against freedom by their actions. They may "feel" they are operating based on things more important and greater than themselves. I somehow doubt that. Notice how they claim to be speaking for G*d. Loudly to be sure, but only to beat down all opposition. Why is that if they are pure and humble in their beliefs?

The answer is obvious. They have no conservative sense on individual freedom. They don't want it, because it would expose the extremist totalitarians they are.

Posse spam static to follow, but sadly not a penny from them to keep FreeRepublic up and running. Now there is all the facts that one needs to know.

[ejonesie22]

No I am complimenting you and your admission that you have no interest in the topic, nor proof that any of those you are falsely accusing of being Obama supporters are indeed such...

It is refreshing that you do not try and hide your agenda, the game you are playing...

[greyfoxx39]

Your hatred of Romney and Mormons is more important than our freedom. That is just sick. How can anyone take seriously anything you say? Elsie has refused to answer whether this Catholic can make it to heaven if he doesn't hate the Mormons as does she.

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My, that's quite a different target you are aiming at from THIS;

doug from upland to CodeToad

In 16 years on this forum and in all the activism in which I have been involved, which is considerable, I don’t think my reputation is being subservient to liberals. Ask the Democratic Underground.

At times there are different ways we win. I have been in their faces many, many times over the years. In this particular case, I thought the tactic of taking the high road was preferable. I wanted to establish the left as the real haters. In this particular matter, when we appear to be the haters it makes it more difficult to accomplish that end.

Our side generally wants to defend the institution that has served society well for thousands of years -— marriage. I am opposed to same sex marriage, not because I hate homosexuals, but because it is better for society. God will judge them as he does all of us. We are all flawed human beings. Let them just go live their lives and stay out of our faces. When it appears that we come from a position of hate, it gives them ammunition, it dilutes our argument, and makes it more difficult to make our argument one that is taken seriously.

Sodomite, faggot, fudge packer, pervert, get AIDS and die, rot in hell, etc. may make you feel good. But does it advance our argument in the culture war?

Establishment Republican? That’s funny.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2914447/posts?page=190#190

Exactly how does attacking those of us who refuse to vote for Romney for any reason differ from your stance on "Sodomite, faggot, fudge packer, pervert, get AIDS and die, rot in hell," and why are you so eager to ignore Romney's homosexual stance now? And are you "taking the high road" yourself?

You don't like our stance on his mormonism, don't read the threads. Just don't vote for him because of his stance on homosexuals.

“I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation,” Mr. Romney said during a debate at the time.

His campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul told AP this week that the view “remains Romney’s position today.”

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[ejonesie22]

I fear that you will be disappointed. The right shifts further left...

And the first tossed under the bus was God...

[PA Engineer]

It is refreshing that you do not try and hide your agenda, the game you are playing...

My only agenda here is to get the cyber bullies and spammers to carry their weight and make a donation. Will you make a donation that is worthy of your level of spamming and ad hominem attacks?

I have donated $400 this quarter as a challenge to the posse. I have more if I could just get your group to match that. Sadly, your posse has not pledged a penny. That would have been an additional $4,800 from your group. This is based on your spamming ping list. The best your group could do is present an opus by one of your members. Trust me, I do believe that was a helpful donation.

Why won't your group get her done and help out FreeRepublic?

[MHGinTN]

Lucky you, Doug. They only went back to a few days ago to drag one of your posts on a different thread into this thread. One of them went all the way back to 2007 trying squelch me. Didn’t ework, but that shows the dedication they have to bullying, if they can get away with it.

[MHGinTN]

Lucky you, Doug. They only went back to a few days ago to drag one of your posts on a different thread into this thread. One of them went all the way back to 2007 trying to squelch me. Didn’t work, but that shows the dedication they have to bullying, if they can get away with it.

[Alex Murphy]

They are proven to be against freedom by their actions. They may "feel" they are operating based on things more important and greater than themselves. I somehow doubt that. Notice how they claim to be speaking for G*d. Loudly to be sure, but only to beat down all opposition. Why is that if they are pure and humble in their beliefs?

The answer is obvious. They have no conservative sense on individual freedom. They don't want it, because it would expose the extremist totalitarians they are.

"They"? Who are "they"?

[PA Engineer]

The Spam Posse. They are a group of spammers who destroy numerous threads with nonstop anti-romney rants. There are 12 hard core members on their ping list and they engage in cyber bullying and ad hominem attacks.

I have had an ongoing challenge for them to match donations on the Freepathon. The best we got was an opus from one of them. Just find the ping list and go through their posting history.

[ejonesie22]

First you assume much, but that is ok, it is part of the game.

My only point is that your accusations and other bilge are simply a game to garner donations from people some of whom already donate. Your words have no meaning and your accusations no merit beyond that, but that too is ok, as long as the casual observer understands that...

Meanwhile, for those of us who are holding the fort, the I told you so is coming faster than I thought, LOL...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2916099/posts?page=1

[doug from upland]

I am really, really getting tired of some of the crap people have posted about me here. I am not attacking those who refuse to vote for Romney. Some are so filled with hate that they distort my position. I have never been for Romney yet have been accused of sending him money and being someone here from the RAT underground.

Listen if you are able. My candidates were Newt and Bachmann. I am a Reagan Republican. I am just sick over what is happening to this forum that I have loved for 16 years. Mormons don’t threaten my Catholicism. You know what does? Radical Islam. There are over a billion of them. They are the ones who strap bombs to their own children to murder innocent people.

I am attacking people here who seem to have gone insane and make FR look like it is filled with lunatics. I agree with virtually none of Romney’s positions other than on the economy and foreign policy.

The hate and vitriol coming from those of you who hate Mormons is disgusting.

You are so filled with hate that your ears are closed. Try really hard to comprehend -— I AM NOT A ROMNEY SUPPORTER. Do you get it?

Those who say that Romney is equivalent to Obama are out of their freaking minds. They really do hate Mormons more than they love their country.

[dragonblustar]

DO you honestly think Romney will be the savior for this country and undo everything Obama has done? You only have to look at the kind of people supporting Romney to find your answer. If that doesn’t help you than look at Boneless Boehmer. He’s ready to fund Obama care.

[bert]

so saith the graycrone

[doug from upland]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hang in there PA Engineer. From the ejonesie22 homepage:

“Look here in the next few days for a quick list of free cut and paste Fred Thompson Bashing statements so you too can play the “Bash the guy who is kicking our ass!” game along with me...”

He/she/it doesn’t like bashing Fred Thompson but is now the basher. LOL

[ejonesie22]

“cyber bullying and ad hominem attacks.”

I so love irony...

[greyfoxx39]

So happy to see you continue to "take the high road".

Why don't you take a look at THIS thread for some new targets of your "high road rhetoric".

Romney: The Boy Scouts should admit homosexuals