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To: jessduntno; Rides_A_Red_Horse

>> I don’t think that an unlawful entry in error couldn’t be sorted out by other means than a gun, cowboy, but it could.

If I understand that convoluted sentence of yours correctly, you’re saying that an unlawful entry could be “sorted out” by some means other than shooting the cop.

Very well - explain how. And explain what “sorted out” means.

I offered you the chance to explain this earlier but you sidestepped my question. Will you sidestep it again? Or will you man up?


63 posted on 08/06/2012 1:18:34 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Very well - explain how. And explain what “sorted out” means.

I offered you the chance to explain this earlier but you sidestepped my question. Will you sidestep it again? Or will you man up?”

Man up? Oh, no, I wouldn’t try that around here...too dangerous. When someone comes through the door, they don’t come in shooting. Perhaps you have statistics on the number of times that has happened. Go to the ACLU - you’re probably a contributing member.


65 posted on 08/06/2012 1:26:48 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Nervous Tick; Rides_A_Red_Horse; diogenes ghost

“The topic is ‘unannounced dynamic entries’, or whatever term you wish to use. These (hopefully) constitute a tiny percentage of the ‘MILLIONS of civilian interactions’ you quote.”

Unannounced Dynamic Entry? You mean guns blazing? No questions asked, kill ‘em all? Wahhhooooooooooo?
How many were there last year?

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/property-crime/propertycrimemain

Maybe this will help you with your number crunching;

In 2010, there were an estimated 9,082,887 property crime offenses in the Nation. (MY NOTE: these are just the REPORTED ones).

The 2-year trend showed that property crime decreased 2.7 percent in 2010 compared with the 2009 estimate. The 5-year trend, comparing 2010 data with that of 2006, showed a 9.3 percent drop in property crime.

In 2010, the rate of property crime was estimated at 2,941.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, a 3.3 percent decrease when compared with the rate in 2009. The 2010 property crime rate was 12.1 percent lower than the 2006 rate and 19.6 percent below the 2001 rate. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)

Larceny-theft accounted for 68.1 percent of all property crimes in 2010. Burglary accounted for 23.8 percent and motor vehicle theft for 8.1 percent. (Based on Table 1.)
Property crimes in 2010 resulted in losses estimated at 15.7 billion dollars. (Based on Tables 1 and 23.)

When someone comes through the door, they don’t come in shooting. Perhaps you have statistics on the number of times that has happened. Go to the ACLU website - you’re probably all contributing members.


67 posted on 08/06/2012 1:48:16 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Nervous Tick; Rides_A_Red_Horse; diogenes ghost
“The topic is ‘unannounced dynamic entries’, or whatever term you wish to use. These (hopefully) constitute a tiny percentage of the ‘MILLIONS of civilian interactions’ you quote.”

From the article;

The measure was approved by the Republican-controlled Legislature and signed by Republican Governor Mitch Daniels in March. It amended a 2006 so-called Castle Doctrine bill that allows deadly force to stop illegal entry into a home or car.

The law describes the ability to use force to “protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force.”

For you guys, (or gals) that would mean just about anything, wouldn't it? For a LOT of gangstas and wannabes it would, I promise you that.

Probably a LOT of forced home invasions of cars, huh? You know, jaws of life attacks, flash bangs in the back seat, that kinda thing?

Stupid amendment that will get people killed.

70 posted on 08/06/2012 1:58:33 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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