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To: carlo3b; Jim Robinson; Bob J; christie; stanz; jellybean; Angelique; Howie; TwoStep; piasa
THERE IS ONLY 3 MONTHS LEFT BEFORE THIS HISTORIC ELECTION!

We desperately need to come to a consensuses.. Shutting off debate hasn't brought about a satisfactory result.. Flame-wars hasn't worked so well either.. DUH!

I'm not looking for agreement, not even stalemate.. We need a plan..

So, according to the jist of your post, the plan is to require Conservatives to discard every_single_principle they (and this site) adhere to in order to vote for Romney... Inevitably, that is where you must start. That is where you feel that 'consensus' is to be found?

This is precisely the game played here for McCain, and there is a helluva lot more dissent now than there was then. And rightfully so.

The plan STARTS with preserving the basic principles of Conservatism. That is what we are here for. That is where we find natural consensus. That cannot be bent around your candidate. It isn't possible.

That plan would naturally support Conservative candidates at every level, to include the presidency, and let God sort it out from there. Anything other than that is a damn dirty lying shame and will inevitably be proven so. FEAR may be a great motivator, but it is very poor tool in decision making.

The WORST damage possible to inflict upon this country is the dissolution of Conservatism - That which preserves what this country is and always has been - And the easiest way toward the dissolution of Conservatism is to get Conservatives to vote *FOR* their own antithesis. To remove the only opposition to liberalism... And one does that by forfeiting the principles we are standing upon.

But I need not hope that your OP falls upon deaf ears. I already know that it will.

239 posted on 08/06/2012 3:33:23 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
So, according to the jist of your post, the plan is to require Conservatives to discard every_single_principle they (and this site) adhere to in order to vote for Romney... Inevitably, that is where you must start. That is where you feel that 'consensus' is to be found?

Nice try, but not even close.. I didn't post this to enter into a pissing contest over who has the purest heart! We to stop the bleeding.. We need to WIN the Presidency FIRST, but we also need a Congress that adheres to the Tea Party principles..

That too is our job.. We are close on both counts if we don't allow ourselves to get distracted.. We are on the same team, and I am telling you something that we both know, Obama has to go, NOW, not in 4 more years to prove some point!

The only man standing in his way is a good man, I brilliant practitioner that I believe we need at this time.. He is the right man, as I have outlined in a post above, with the mental heft to get it done!

246 posted on 08/06/2012 6:33:06 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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