Posted on 08/05/2012 8:01:33 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Seven people were shot and killed today at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., in what officials are treating as a case of domestic terrorism.
Though police have not given any details on the identity or motive of the shooter, or released the identities of the victims, sources have told ABC News the shootings are the work of a "white supremacist" or "skinhead."
This evening, the FBI and a bomb squad arrived at a home in Cudahy, Wis., near Oak Creek, and ABC News Milwaukee affiliate WISN reported the action appeared to be related to the temple shootings earlier in the day.
Authorities also were trying to trace a single, semiautomatic handgun recovered at the scene, sources told ABC News.
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Well, he’s a skinhead but not a skinhead, we think he’s a neo-nazi, but maybe not, his tattoos seem to indicate that...
the more speculation and misinformation is slathered all over the place about this guy, Holmes, and Loughner (the Giffords shooter) the more the conclusion will be “we just can’t tell who’s gonna go off the deep end next so we better confiscate all those nasty firearms to keep the people safe.”.
Count on it.
Thank you. However, NDTV, and Hindustan Times are reporting something slightly different. Some of it is based on the tattoos this sick freak had on his arms, after his body was viewed once he had done the damage.
Let us watch as this plays out. I never doubt their treachery.
But far too early to judge this.
In my opinion, Obozo will be soundly defeated in November.
Look at these figures (realities) and assumptions: 2% of the US population currently is in prison. A certain percentage of that is Aryan Brotherhood member or affiliated(I dont know, what, of that population then 20, 30%...then add in those not members of that group or Christian Identity Church not behind bars), and all the other freaking whackos out there, and I am sure you can at least get to 1% maybe 2%. That's how I got to the figures. Which country are YOU referring to then?
A guy yells "Alluah Akbar",while gunning down 14 people, I count the unborn baby, and "terrorism is not involved", even though the guy had contact with Alawki, who later got taken out by a drone strike.. because he was a terrorist.
Go figure.. or don't, it's the usual MO of the MSM and the left.. but I repeat myself.
“Same weekend THIS comes out? And right after the “Joker” murders, another totally false-flag event perpetrated by what looked to be a drugged, hypnotized patsy?”
These could only be False Flag operations, but by who and how high in the power structure?
Obama, Soros, Clinton, the CIA military black ops or NWO Agents?
Anything more than 0.01% of the U.S. population is a Hollywood fantasy.
3725 e holmes. lived with landlord at 3748 e holmes. Landlord Kurt Weins was told not to release name by authorities. Authorities will give more info at 10am.
It bothers me that he is from Chicago and basically a drifter making him untrackable. Combined with instant federal jurisdiction and a coerced local gag order. Forgive me if there is a hush hush plan not to name mass murders to make it less appealing in the future.
Bullshit AIT
AMERICA AINT 2 PERCENT WHITE SUPREMACIST
YOUVE BEEN OVERSEAS too long
Never ever has been.....
Today maybe one in a 1000 whites
Whites are the least ethnocentrist....been totally pussy whipped
Sikh Temple Shooting update
FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping.
Have a nice day.
Local police report coming soon will probably tell me what I need to know about the perp.
Nobody is claiming they don't exist, but the Left has been pushing the meme that both their numbers are far greater and their activities are far worse than similar leftist groups. This started with the "anti-militia" exaggerations back in Bill Clinton's terms and continues with Obama's. All the negatives you list are certainly true, but compared to all the socialist left and eco-left groups they are a miniscule presence in US political life.
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions" -- A. Hitler
Washington, D.C. October 19, 2011
Director Robert S. Mueller, III named Teresa L. Carlson special agent in charge of the FBIs Milwaukee Division. Ms. Carlson most recently served as section chief in the Directorate of Intelligence, which is responsible for collecting, producing, and disseminating actionable intelligence that enables the FBI to identify and counter current and emerging threats.
Ms. Carlson is a 19-year veteran of the FBI. She entered on duty as a special agent and was first assigned to the Chicago Division, where she investigated violent crimes and public corruption matters. Ms. Carlson was a case agent for Operation Silver Shovel, an undercover investigation that involved bribery, drug trafficking, and organized crime activity. It resulted in more than 20 convictions, including elected officials.
She was later promoted to the Inspection Division at FBI Headquarters. Ms. Carlson then transferred to the Birmingham Division, where she served as a supervisor in the white-collar crime program.
After serving in the Birmingham Division, Ms. Carlson was appointed assistant special agent in charge (ASAC) of the white-collar crime and cyber programs in the New York Division. While in this role, she oversaw high-profile investigations and subsequently was in charge of the intelligence program for the division.
She returned to FBI Headquarters after working as ASAC in the New York Division. Ms. Carlson worked in the FBIs National Security Branch, which is responsible for national security matters, including budget matters and liaison with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Congress, and the White House.
Ms. Carlson is from Grand Rapids, Michigan and graduated from Michigan State University. Prior to her career in the FBI, she did legal research for the Michigan Legislature.
I dunno. I’d need real numbers. My anecdotal experience over nearly six decades of living in America includes exactly 1 (one) encounter with a true white supremacist, and he was not even theologically Christian, actually buying into the whole Norse pantheon. We spoke of Loki. I bet he would’ve loved the Thor movie. It happened in Virginia, when I was first arriving there for law school, at the car rental place. Freaked me out a little, “Is this what Virginia is going to be like?” But never ever again after that.
Now I’ve met literally thousands and thousands of people over my lifetime, so I just don’t see even 1%, let alone 2%. I believe most people in the prison system are nominally Christian, so that’s a poor place to start. Furthermore, just like Islam, the number of people in a group that might be willing to act out their professed beliefs with aggressive violence is a bare fraction of the total number in that group.
So I conclude with others here that, absent better statistics, any identification as a white supremacist will be used to intentionally exaggerate the risk from white Christian populations for the sole purpose of enhancing the gun control argument.
They are vastly outnumbered by violent street gangs of other sorts.
The overwhelming majority of violence attributed to all of these groups comes from their criminal activity, not their political beliefs.
> Wouldnt a terrorist know his target better? Like the difference between a Muslim and a Sikh? I still have doubts.
A terrorist can very well be an idiot.
Wish we had such mettle.
But you seriously showed your profound ignorance of the white supremacist movement in America with your loonie utterances.
The prison population today in the US is largely minority (whites 35%) populated hence your perusal that since 2 percent of the US is in jail that we must be 1-2% white supremacist is nuts.
Further, very few prisoners are actually white supremacists...maybe 1-500 white inmates is tough enough or mean enough to join The Brand...what most call Aryan Brotherhood and btw they are not interchangeable with Aryan nations or Christian Identity.
The average Aryan Brotherhood member adorns themselves with “white lore” but couldn't tell you Pete Peters from William Pierce or knows Posse Comitatus from Potato chips and probably would think The Turner Diaries is Ted Turner's memoirs.
To use such logic as yours about prison population and spout goofy ignorance and then suggest 1-2% of whites over here must be white supremacists is silly for a poster on this forum.
To then reply that an unapologetic southerner such as myself must by default be a white supremacist too is pretty despicable and a cheap shot from an expat.
i used to see your posts and find you fairly decent as a rule.
but I learn quick...
just a little smarmy PC feller living abroad making green and pointing fingers and falling for the media narrative
and young and culturally brainwashed
but the irony of you living amongst the most ethnocentric culture on the planet hinting that southerners simply must be racist by default is priceless
natural chutzpah....we call it hubris
never knew you were like this...sad
oh yeah....and from your homepage...
South Carolina and still haven’t “ditched” the drawl?
you think how we talk is something to be “ditched”?
are you ashamed of it?
whew...I really do not like southern brats who effect a non southern accent since they are ashamed of how they speak or where they are from
i am plenty proud of mine...my kin who were fine enough died fighting for this country and their culture speaking it and they sure didn’t try to ditch it
what a snotty thing to say
you need some self reflection son
the South is like the last redoubt over here...us and some scatterings in the mountain west and mid west
why do you think America loving folks are streaming in here?
u think they are ashamed of southern accents...or country accents for that matter?
you have to be very young...there must be hope for u
America is changing fast AIT...you must be missing it to say the things you do
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