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Here in New Zealand the left has infiltrated both main political parties to the core. The public will have homosexual marriage forced upon them with no choice. The conservative party here has only 2% of the vote.

Here is my email I sent to the conservative party:

I am 44 & live in Auckland. I am politically conservative & quite right wing. I am however an atheist and a scientist. Despite this in general I agree with the moral ethics of most religious people over the immoral left.

I base my judgements upon psychology & neuroscience in matters concerning behaviour.

The basic fact is that while genetic factors influence sexual orientation - "neuroplasticity" of the nervous system is far more powerful in defining behaviour.

If we were dumb animals then yes it would be genetic - end of story. But as adult human beings we are "accountable" for our behaviour - directly because of neuroplasticity.

The homosexual movement is deliberately undermining this accountability.

The danger of this alone is obvious. But, a greater danger is that not just sexuality is alterable by neuroplasticity. Intelligence is also plastic. Our society and culture are still oppressive in this respect. But cognitive enhancement has been practised for thousands of years.

By perpetrating the lie of eugenics the left is reinforcing the intellectual oppression of the population & at the same time undermining personal accountability.

Essentially they are socially engineering an oppression of the population. This is their objective.

The scientific facts are very clear and their is no "debate" to be had.

Also with regard to sexual abuse and sexual orientation. Personally I was the victim of a violent sexual attack as a child & was nearly murdered when I was 12 by a stranger. If anything this experience made me very anti-homosexual. I did not experience any confusion of sexual orientation as an adolescent after puberty. I have always been heterosexual, which is quite a long time now. Most victims of sexual assault do not go on to become sexual offenders. However there is an increase in the probability. There is a much greater likelihood of drug & alcohol abuse.

This I believe is where the link with increased sexual offending occurs. Drug and alcohol users are the most likely of all to be sex offenders whether they were abused themselves or not.

You need to attack the homosexuals on personal "accountability" and blow away the false argument of genetics with the facts of neuroplasticity.

They will then argue that homosexuality is not wrong anyway even if its not genetic. This is of course false as it is a contradiction of ones physiological potential and the sexual purpose of ones physiological drives. To be fulfilled as a man or a woman. They will the say "what about hermaphrodites?" 1:1000 are hermaphrodites so it is a mute point.

The point must also be driven that homosexuality itself is socially, psychologically and physiologically dysfunctional.

Those are the facts.

1 posted on 08/04/2012 2:40:27 AM PDT by gareththomasnz
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To: gareththomasnz

There’s no getting away from the fact that to stick your dick up another man’s rectum is indeed a CHOICE!

Nothing forces anyone to do that. Yes or NO?


2 posted on 08/04/2012 2:47:17 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: gareththomasnz
I believe that the purpose is to imbue immutable rights on homosexuality

once they have had homosexuality rationalized as an immutable birthright then all sorts of "rights" can be bastardized into another protected class

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3 posted on 08/04/2012 2:53:15 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: gareththomasnz
They will then argue that homosexuality is not wrong anyway even if its not genetic. This is of course false as it is a contradiction of ones physiological potential and the sexual purpose of ones physiological drives. To be fulfilled as a man or a woman. They will the say "what about hermaphrodites?" 1:1000 are hermaphrodites so it is a mute point.

The point must also be driven that homosexuality itself is socially, psychologically and physiologically dysfunctional.

Right on! Male and female genitalia are made for sexual union. Male/male and female/female sexual union can only be achieved through risky acts of sexual perversion.

It is dereliction of responsibility for policy makers to compromise the health and safety of the people they represent by pretending that homosexual union is normal and acceptable.

4 posted on 08/04/2012 3:06:08 AM PDT by olezip
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To: gareththomasnz

I wonder if we could create a new discriminated identity class called Conservatives.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 3:21:47 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: gareththomasnz

There are probably some homosexuals who feel they don’t have a choice, just as heterosexuals don’t. But, there are probably others who get roped into (talked into) the lifestyle. It’s pretty naive to think humans don’t have a choice about such things. Lesbians are famous for going back and forth. There are also many bi-sexual men, which (by definition) can pick or choose their partner’s gender.


6 posted on 08/04/2012 3:25:40 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: gareththomasnz
I am also a scientist and have observed with some consternation the campaign to declare the abnormal, normal. It is a self evident fact that the sex drive of a person experiencing same-sex attraction is not functioning as designed (NFAD - I'm also an engineer and retired military officer which motivates me to reduce everything to an acronym!). All complex things are subject to myriad failure modes and the human sex drive is no different. This is why engineers attempt to minimize complexity in our designs - it tends to make the product of the design more reliable.

Humans are complex organisms and are imperfect. We all suffer from defects. I myself suffer from defective blood chemistry (high cholesterol not manageable by diet alone), a congenital defect that limits my hearing, and a host of other things. In other words, I'm a typical human being getting by the best he can with the genetic cards he's been dealt. It may well be possible that, as in alcoholism, there is a genetic factor that renders some people more likely to experience same sex attraction later in life, especially given certain experiences early in childhood or puberty, but the jury is clearly still out on that and researchers aren't even allowed to investigate it these days.

Environmental factors are also clearly in play. Indeed, I've noticed many correlations among my gay friends and acquaintances. 1) the men especially had defective or non-existent relationships with their fathers as children, 2)they tend to exhibit obsessive or compulsive behaviors in their lives which tends to make them excel in their chosen field but also renders them susceptible to chemical addictions and other personally destructive behaviors, etc. There are also other, darker correlations.

I've also seen theories that indicate same sex attraction is a form of addiction and that many men and women who have abandoned the gay lifestyle refer to themselves as being in a perpetual state of recovery, much like alcoholics do. This is indeed possible given my observations above.

Bottom line is that the campaign to declare same sex attraction normal and healthy is political and not based in science. The APA’s endorsement of homosexuality in the ‘70s was left wing political activism, nothing more. There is a growing movement in that organization to now declare pedophilia just another sexual orientation - again a political, not scientific conclusion.

Remember that you can't gain complete control of a free people without first undermining the three pillars of liberty: the family, the church, and private property. The Soviets knew this and made those objectives central to their campaign against the west. That torch is now being carried by other movements, including some within our own borders like the homo-fascists attacking a chicken food chain.

9 posted on 08/04/2012 3:53:48 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: gareththomasnz

Many current and former homosexuals agree with him.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 4:08:31 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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The problem with both sides is that hey try to fit a single explanation for all cases. I am fairly certain that the causes run the gamut from some organic disorder, to purely psycological.

There is a danger here, from the typically conservative side.. there might be an external, physical, environmental cause. It is a disorder, and there ought to be further study into it. Denying these, as most conservatives tend to do, could lead to more people being affected and not cured.

12 posted on 08/04/2012 4:11:46 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: gareththomasnz

Is Wellington still the San Francisco of NZ ???


13 posted on 08/04/2012 4:21:32 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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Plenty of cultures raise “excess” sons to be gay. American Samoa comes to mind. Boys raised to be “girly” wind up gay.

Scientific studies of identical twins raised apart also give the lie to the “gay gene” theory.


15 posted on 08/04/2012 4:24:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Plenty of cultures raise “excess” sons to be gay. American Samoa comes to mind. Boys raised to be “girly” wind up gay.

Scientific studies of identical twins raised apart also give the lie to the “gay gene” theory.


16 posted on 08/04/2012 4:24:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: gareththomasnz

Excellent write up. If people want to think it’s a personal choice and there’s nothing wrong with it, then I’d suggest they take their children down to the next gay rights celebration. People can only stick their heads in the sand for so long.


17 posted on 08/04/2012 4:37:44 AM PDT by HarleyD
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these homosexuals are in a snare of satan. Understand the true enemy is not these people personally, but satan who has taken them captive to do his will.


19 posted on 08/04/2012 5:00:36 AM PDT by yldstrk ( That is corrMy heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: gareththomasnz; LaserJock

See #21. Comments? Thoughts?


22 posted on 08/04/2012 5:30:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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If we were dumb animals then yes it would be genetic - end of story. But as adult human beings we are “accountable” for our behaviour - directly because of neuroplasticity.

The homosexual movement is deliberately undermining this accountability.


Thank you, sir and spot on. Gee, science doesn’t seem to be a big priority for the supposed “Party of Science”.

Unless, of course, it can be folded, spindled and mutilated to fit the narrative.

Once again, thank you.


23 posted on 08/04/2012 5:45:27 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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Normalizing gender confusion seems like such a great idea.


27 posted on 08/04/2012 7:15:14 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: gareththomasnz

No one has EVER disallowed anyone else to DO AS THEY LIKE, nor could they have. Homosexuals have lived as couples for a long time without being assaulted by heterosexuals. (If they’re lobbying for “legalizing” their marriages, they better be also lobbying for good DIVORCE laws as well. “Ever after” is no more guaranteed for them than it is for straight couples. - Societal approval is something NONE of us is guaranteed no matter how the Supreme Court rules or how many speeches the President gives.”


28 posted on 08/04/2012 7:23:44 AM PDT by Twinkie (Obama; fundamentally turning America into Sodom & Gomorrah one EO at a time.)
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To: gareththomasnz

It is not a choice, it is a mental illness, same sex affection disorder. The choice involved is to act or not to act on the compulsion.

HOMOSEXUAL, because there’s nothing GAY about it!


32 posted on 08/04/2012 11:11:30 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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“Cultures that are land-strapped such as small islands or steeply mountainous sometimes evolve systems to prevent fighting over the tiny parcels to be inherited.”

This is exactly what the peaceniks are trying to do - to homosexualize & pacify the populace. Some are doing this because of their own homosexuality, some in the delusion of pacifism, and others to undermine the military capability of the society to the military advantage of others.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 5:52:50 AM PDT by gareththomasnz
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