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To: Malone LaVeigh

There’s nothing you can legally do about someone exhibiting strange behavior until that behavior crosses the line and he actually DOES something dangerous to himself or others.

That’s the law. We don’t lock people up pre-emptively. It’s the price we pay for a free society.

Again, there was nothing the university or law enforcement could do, even if they were keeping an eye on him. It’s not against the law to be strange.


3 posted on 08/02/2012 12:10:21 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
Wake up....If they did a little bit of investigation, they would have found a shi* load of stuff in his apartment.

Don't make excuses....we've seen that with the college coaches, haven't we?

6 posted on 08/02/2012 12:16:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Jedidah
There’s nothing you can legally do about someone exhibiting strange behavior until that behavior crosses the line and he actually DOES something dangerous to himself or others. That’s the law. We don’t lock people up pre-emptively. It’s the price we pay for a free society.

I agree with you so take the rest of my comments only as adding to the conversation.

We do not want to cross a line where everyone that looks funny is arrested or brought in for questioning. In this case, however, it seems something else needed to be done. What that is without infringing on the liberties your rightly point out I don't know.

Any ideas? Again, you have sounded a bold and needed reminder of the cost to freedom by overreaching.

8 posted on 08/02/2012 12:19:08 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Jedidah
There’s nothing you can legally do about someone exhibiting strange behavior until that behavior crosses the line and he actually DOES something dangerous to himself or others. That’s the law. We don’t lock people up pre-emptively. It’s the price we pay for a free society.

Yup, that's correct. We need to be careful about how we go about this. My hope is that we can show that this case, as with Loughner before, shows just how impotent and worthless the psychiatric profession is and that we can use that knowledge to push back their increasing influence over our kids and our lives.

17 posted on 08/02/2012 12:29:38 PM PDT by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: Jedidah

But as a corollary, I don’t care if he’s nuts (obviously) or not. Try, convict and execute.


22 posted on 08/02/2012 12:50:47 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Jedidah

“There’s nothing you can legally do about someone exhibiting strange behavior until that behavior crosses the line and he actually DOES something dangerous to himself or others.”

I know that in many states - if not most - that’s simply not true. In Washington State, two doctors can swear you’re a present danger to yourself or others and have you put on in-patient watch for 72 hours.

It rarely happens though, because of the potential litigation.


27 posted on 08/02/2012 1:01:41 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: Jedidah

If you are prescribing medications to someone, there is more accountability.

The pills don’t make a personal “normal”. It makes them “pass” as functional in society. He clearly had a malfunction and shot up nearly a half dozen people.


46 posted on 08/02/2012 2:23:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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