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To: DoughtyOne
The GERMANS were the enemy, and our soldiers fought them and won the war. Our soldiers did not stop to consider that maybe the German enemy might not “allow” them to win. They had the fire in their bellies to fight and win, and they WON.

Your statement that the GOP will not “allow” We the People to support and elect a true conservative in the 2016 elections suggests that you will not fight to select and vote for that conservative candidate in 2016. We do not have to ask the GOP for permission to elect a Conservative. We fight for the right to select and elect instead. Big difference. Enough talk, we need action and we need to join forces in mega numbers if we are to win at the polls.

In closing, help the cause, and you know full well what the cause is, if you're been reading any of the articles on oboma and what he is currently/previously doing to this country, transgression by transgression. And if you do understand the CAUSE and the STRATEGY of why we must all come together and vote for the official candidate running against obozo who has the electoral votes, we welcome you aboard, we patriots needs a mega turnout at the polls. And if you chose to go another way, you won't be the first person who went left in elections and wars of years past, while the men and women of this country, who fully understood the dangers they were facing, went right, and won the elections and the wars.

PS: Get the hell out of California...it belongs to the left. You're wasting your time and efforts. Save yourself, at least, if you won't fight and help us to save the rest of the country. If not, please step out of the way..We the People have work to do.

79 posted on 08/02/2012 12:41:24 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme
Thanks for the response.

The GERMANS were the enemy, and our soldiers fought them and won the war. Our soldiers did not stop to consider that maybe the German enemy might not “allow” them to win. They had the fire in their bellies to fight and win, and they WON.

First of all, I'm not trying to put anyone down, and I'm not inferring that you said I was at all.  What I was trying to say here, is that there is a faction of the Republican party who wants to defeat Conservatives every bit as much as the Democrats do.  Please do not think you have an ally in them.  Mitt Romney is not your ally.  The cause is going nowhere with that guy at the helm.

Your statement that the GOP will not “allow” We the People to support and elect a true conservative in the 2016 elections suggests that you will not fight to select and vote for that conservative candidate in 2016. We do not have to ask the GOP for permission to elect a Conservative. We fight for the right to select and elect instead. Big difference. Enough talk, we need action and we need to join forces in mega numbers if we are to win at the polls.

Okay, I appreciate what you are tying to say.  I'm just trying to explain to you that in open primaries, even the most well meaning Conservatives that are all fired up, will not be able to turn Democrats into Conservative voters.  Republicans are not all Conservatives.  You have Conservatives, Liberal Republicans, and Democrats voting to choose our nominee.  Under these rules, it's almost statistically impossible to prevail.  That is why we get McCains and Romneys.  And it is outrageious that the Republican National Committee won't lift a finger to change this.

In closing, help the cause, and you know full well what the cause is, if you're been reading any of the articles on oboma and what he is currently/previously doing to this country, transgression by transgression.

I can only help the cause, if I vote for someone who will help the cause.  There are three courses each president must choose from.  1They will add more Lefitst legislation and remove Conservative legislation.  2They will remain netural and allow things to remain as they are.  3They will add more Conservative legislation and strike down Leftist legislation.

Ronald Reagan was the only president in our lifetime that tried to go the third way (not to be confused with a populist movement by the same name in the 90s).

Romney will not strike down Leftist legislation, and he will implement more Leftist legislation.  That means, voting for him is pointless.  If he does strike down Obamacare, it will only be to implement the Republicans own plan for nationalizing it.  Can't you folks grasp that?  He's a statist.  What more can I say?

And if you do understand the CAUSE and the STRATEGY of why we must all come together and vote for the official candidate running against obozo who has the electoral votes, we welcome you aboard, we patriots needs a mega turnout at the polls.

I appreciate your civil tone, and I know you mean well.  None the less, Romney, you, and I do not share the same goals.  If you are going to vote for a Leftist, you're not headed in the same direction I am.  Romney is a Leftist, a statist, and most certainly not a Conservative.   

And if you chose to go another way, you won't be the first person who went left in elections and wars of years past, while the men and women of this country, who fully understood the dangers they were facing, went right, and won the elections and the wars.

For all you know, I am a ex service member who served in Vietnam, one of the Gulf wars, or some other lesser campaign.  You really shouldn't use the military angle on this.  I am not an ex member of the military, but it would offend me considerably if I saw you use such terms when conversing with one of our ex members of the military just because they disagreed with you.  As it is, I will go ahead and accept your language that equates me with going to the Left if I won't vote for Romney.  I have explained why, which totally destroys that argument, but I am comfortable with people adopting their own views about this, from their reading of this post.

PS:

Get the hell out of California...  it belongs to the left. You're wasting your time and efforts. Save yourself, at least,...

I was born in California.  At three years of age my parents sent me to live in Missouri with my grandparents.  I never gave up on where I belonged.  Fifteen years later, an opportunity came up, and I returned to California.  I'm not leaving.

Missouri will always have a VERY strong place in my heart, but I am home.

While I have lived in California, I have seen many Conservative middle class people pick up sticks and leave.  And when they did, they ensured that California will be lost until another supply of loyalists returns to the state, or new ones are developed here.  And with the RNC and the state party leadership almost invisible in the state, there is no hope for California in the short term.

In 2000, California was approximately the 5th world power on the planet.  It had many military bases.  It had the 5th largest economy behind the U. S. Japan, and a few others.  Today it is around 9th.

Milestones along the way have seen Californians vote for Ronald Reagan twice
They voted to put a limit on property taxes
They voted to remove Chief Justice Rose Bird and two other Leftist judges from the California Supreme Court
They voted for Prop 187 which denied goods and services to Illegal aliens
Free Republic was started by Jim Robinson and his sons in 1997
The people of California voted out Leftist Gray Davis in 2003, sadly replacing him with a leftist failure Arnold Schwarzenegger
The people of California voted against Homosexual marriage last year

The fact of the matter is, California is on the cusp of doing good things.  When we the people select a guy like Pete Simon to run against Gray Davis, the Democrats pull out all the stops.  Big names fly out to our state on numerous occasions.  The candidate gets to spend tens of millions of dollars.  He flys around on a Leer jet.  Our party extended absolutely no help whatsoever to Simon.  His whole budget was about $2 million.  He traveled around the state in a bus.  His rallies were small, because he didn't get the big names or the budget to rent the big venue.  You don't do that, and the media ignores you.  Flashy Gray Davis/and The Pretender Pete Simon.  California means nothing at all to the Republican party.  Neither do you, as long as you vote for their slugs.

Despite this, Simon lost by a margin that was so close, you know darn well that he would have won if only our party had helped.  It's really quite disheartening.  You see, by abandoning the state the way the Republican party has, we conceed 54 electoral votes to the Democrats every general election.  And we allow a state with this much potential to rot.

We allow illegal immigrants to swarm the state.  We allow them to tap goods and servies.  We allow their children to almost exclusively inhabit $500 million dollar schools in Los Angeles.  We force our middle class to send their kids to private schools, and pay taxes to support the illegals and the teachers who don't really care who they teach, just so long as that lifetime job remains there.

I'm not leaving.
   

...if you won't fight and help us to save the rest of the country. If not, please step out of the way..We the People have work to do.


Would that be the same "We the people" who are allowing our party to game not only us, but the rest of the nation you claim to cherish?

Is surrendering my state to Mexico or the pipe dream of those who hate the U. S. and want Aztan to be recognized instead of California, your way of tapping the core of my shame center?

Well, you missed.  Don't feel bad.  You've done nothing the party hasn't already done for going on twenty years now.


I will not be casting my vote for Romney.  I wanted to vote for our candidate.  I never want to vote for another part-time one.  I consider it a full time position.


We must have a full time Conservative, or but for the grace of God, you're state will look just like mine in time.  Then you can decide if you want to surrender it or not.  Evidently, you will. I will be toes up before I buy into that bull s--t..

81 posted on 08/02/2012 1:57:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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