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Dick Cheney: Picking Sarah Palin for VP Was 'A Mistake'
Yahoo/ABC News ^ | Jonathan Karl

Posted on 07/29/2012 7:38:46 AM PDT by dirtboy

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To: Diogenesis

It only seems hopeless... and yet there is hope. Consider the text below. After you read it... ask yourself this... “How can I not fight, when men like this fought for me... hundreds of years before I was born”?

You are not alone. If the government fails us then we will take our Founder’s guides and rebuild our Republic... we have to. We just have to find the strength to go on fighting against all odds. Our ancestors certainly did.

LLS

http://www.ushistory.org/washingtoncrossing/history/index.htm

In the winter of 1776, General George Washington and his ragged army had experienced only defeat and despair. The War for Independence was going badly, with failure following failure. In the preceding months, Washington’s campaign in New York had not gone well; the Battle of Long Island ended in a loss when the British troops managed to out-maneuver the Continental Army. A series of defeats settled around Washington as he was forced to retreat across New Jersey to Pennsylvania on December 7th and 8th.

As the harsh Pennsylvania winter set in, the morale of the American troops was at an all time low. The soldiers were forced to deal with a lack of both food and warm clothing , while Washington watched his army shrink due to desertions and expiring enlistments. Now, more than ever, a victory was desperately needed.

The original plan called for the three divisions to cross the river under the cover of darkness. The boats to be used for the crossing were gathered earlier in the month in compliance with General Washington’s orders, primarily as a defensive measure. Various types of boats were collected; most notable were the large, heavy Durham boats used to carry pig iron down the Delaware.

Fully expecting to be supported by two divisions south of Trenton, Washington assembled his own troops near McConkey’s Ferry in preparation for the crossing. By 6 PM. 2,400 troops had begun crossing the ice-choked river. The operation was slow and difficult due to the condition of the river. There was an abrupt change in the weather forcing the men to fight their way through sleet and a blinding snowstorm. These obstacles proved to be too much for the supporting divisions led by Generals Cadwalader and Ewing, ultimately preventing their crossing at southern points along the Delaware.

Against all odds, Washington and his men successfully completed the crossing and marched into Trenton on the morning of December 26, achieving a resounding victory over the Hessians.

By moving ahead with his bold and daring plan, General George Washington re-ignited the cause of freedom and gave new life to the American Revolution.


201 posted on 07/29/2012 9:51:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: mkjessup
Au contraire, my posts were directed at those extreme Palin supporters whose Cheney-hating comments were so over the top that they screamed out for rebuke. The hate being directed at our former Vice President would be condemned by Sarah Palin herself, and those assailing Dick Cheney ought to know that.

Extreme? Just about every point made on this thread critizing Cheney references the contradictions in his statements against the polling history of the 2008 campaign.

Face it, you came in here to start a fight, not to discuss the topic of the thread.

202 posted on 07/29/2012 9:52:59 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: reasonisfaith
The onus is on Cheney to describe the specific duties that he’s claiming are beyond Palin’s abilities.
In trying to appeal to emotion, Cheney ignores facts and logic.
Again, the question is: what specific duties could Palin not do?


That isn't what my post #186 was about, you had stated

Because there are no specific functions of the Oval Office that Palin couldn’t perform. This is exemplified by her documented accomplishments as Governor.

To which I said:

"For those tuning in late, perhaps you could list those documented accomplishments for us?

Waiting on you.
203 posted on 07/29/2012 9:53:36 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: dirtboy

Not surprising. Cheney has been going soft since his daughter went gay. Also why would he offer this at this time? See that is really the thing. Its not as if this is valuable advice or even relevant. Team McCain threw Palin to the wolves. If anything Palin proved by not only surviving but surviving as an unquestionabl powerful political force that she most certainly is capable of taking over.

You have to realize that this kind of talk from guys like Cheney and also House and Senate GOP leaders is meant to telegraph a message. The message seem to be that after Mitt wins we are in control not Palin not you slubs in the grass roots. I hope I am wrong on this and maybe this is just Cheney being Cheney but guys like this are too smart not to say this crap in a calculated way.


204 posted on 07/29/2012 9:54:03 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: dirtboy

Funny how Cheney is unable to list even one single presidential task that Palin could not accomplish.


205 posted on 07/29/2012 9:54:13 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: dirtboy

I’d say picking John McCain was the huge mistake.


206 posted on 07/29/2012 9:54:36 AM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I Can Face Tomorrow)
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To: Admin Moderator

“We just don’t like giving left-wing loons any hits.”

That is one of the reasons as to why this is the World’s premiere CONSERVATIVE site! No compromise on Conservatism... No Quarter for progressives. Thank you.

LLS


207 posted on 07/29/2012 9:55:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: dirtboy
Face it, you came in here to start a fight, not to discuss the topic of the thread.

When I arrived the fight was already underway with the most extreme of Sarah's supporters screaming murder most foul and slinging insults, smears and slurs at Dick Cheney for expressing his opinion. But that is probably what you were hoping for as the originator of the thread, right?

Guess you missed all those brickbats flying around.
208 posted on 07/29/2012 9:56:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: mkjessup
When I arrived the fight was already underway with the most extreme of Sarah's supporters screaming murder most foul and slinging insults, smears and slurs at Dick Cheney for expressing his opinion. But that is probably what you were hoping for as the originator of the thread, right?

Uh, no. I was hoping for a topical, adult discussion. But then you showed up.

209 posted on 07/29/2012 9:57:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: 1rudeboy
How about angry? Does the internet make you angry?
#83: "I hit the abuse on your puerile graphic . . . ."


"Puerile" is the one word which could serve as the most eloquent description when it comes time to write your epitaph.

Save that post #83 for your likely surviving relatives, they'll thank you for it.
210 posted on 07/29/2012 9:59:57 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: dirtboy
When I arrived the fight was already underway with the most extreme of Sarah's supporters screaming murder most foul and slinging insults, smears and slurs at Dick Cheney for expressing his opinion. But that is probably what you were hoping for as the originator of the thread, right?
Uh, no. I was hoping for a topical, adult discussion. But then you showed up.


Don't bother trying out for 'open mike night'. Just enjoy the free drinks and stay in the shadows.
211 posted on 07/29/2012 10:02:33 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: mkjessup

At the top of the list is the fact that she stood up to corruption. Corrupt officials went to jail when Palin turned them in after she refused to become part of the corruption.

She’s not only qualified, she’s more qualified than anyone else by virtue of her opposition to the permanent political class.

And there is nothing in the job of president that Palin couldn’t accomplish.

None have ever been named because none exist.


212 posted on 07/29/2012 10:02:52 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: mkjessup
Depends... some of the posts are discussing whether cheney has ever been as Conservative as he allowed himself to be portrayed. In that case then yes... it shows a pattern of progressive thought.

LLS

213 posted on 07/29/2012 10:03:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: mkjessup
You are angry. LOL
214 posted on 07/29/2012 10:03:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mkjessup

Later, pinhead. You’re apparently too stupid to realize how big a fool you are making yourself out to be.


215 posted on 07/29/2012 10:04:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Who is this bozo? Is he for real, or is it an act?


216 posted on 07/29/2012 10:05:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: LibLieSlayer

I agree with the school that says Cheney has arguably done more for the conservative cause in this nation than any person in a generation, including those who merely pontificate from behind a keyboard.

He has been IN the game...in the private sector, in the public sector, and has taken the slings and arrows of the socialists in the media and now, apparently, he is targeted by the self-appointed purists of the chattering chumps in cyberspace conservatism.

Somehow, I think he’ll survive and thrive despite the bedwetters in that arena, too, don’t you? :)


217 posted on 07/29/2012 10:09:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SkyDancer

Cheney is too compromised as far as I am concerned to be critical of Palin and her standings. He has problems as to protecting Halliburton actions and protecting his daughter’s sexual orientation and expressions among other things. At one time he might have been what the USA needed but his drifting toward the ‘new world order’ doesn’t match Palin’s sincere belief in the USA Constitution.


219 posted on 07/29/2012 10:13:37 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Cyman

on the fritz mondull... it isn’t hard to remember when you lived through idiots like that.

LLS


220 posted on 07/29/2012 10:15:22 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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