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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Disagree.

The NYPD should NOT be doing “their job” in New Jersey, unless they had permission, which they DID NOT. What they found as evidence wouldn’t even be admissible if discovered illegally, would it? There is that pesky thing called “Jurisdiction.”


5 posted on 07/25/2012 6:46:25 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Yea, this is definitely NOT the way to conduct business. The NYPD needs to understand that the individual states are sovereign.

Snooping around gun shops in VA and GA and trying to make straw purchases is NOT the mission of the NYPD, even though Bloomingidiot thinks so.

And Bloomingidiot had to sign off on this program, so it shows his clear contempt for the rights of NJ state.


7 posted on 07/25/2012 6:52:35 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: madison10

Excuse me, they were not doing anything any other citizen could not have done. They didn’t do anything a reporter for the Newark Star Ledger or the Rutgers student newspaper could not have done, had they been interested. There is no indication of any illegal activity or exercising police powers in New Jersey, they were just “looking around”. You or I can masquerade as Muslims and join the local mosque to keep tabs on trouble makers, just like the FBI infiltrated the Bund prior to World War II.


8 posted on 07/25/2012 6:56:08 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: madison10
"The NYPD should NOT be doing “their job” in New Jersey, unless they had permission, which they DID NOT. What they found as evidence wouldn’t even be admissible if discovered illegally, would it? There is that pesky thing called “Jurisdiction.”"

Disagree. This isn't like they were doing traffic stops in NJ. This is gathering information to protect New York City. That investigation can go wherever it needs to. If they find evidence of a crime committed in another jurisdiction, they'd need to pull in the appropriate agency with jurisdiction.

9 posted on 07/25/2012 6:56:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: madison10
The NYPD should NOT be doing “their job” in New Jersey, unless they had permission, which they DID NOT.

From the article:

In February, NYPD's deputy commissioner for legal matters, Andrew Schaffer, told reporters that detectives can operate outside New York because they aren't conducting official police duties. "They're not acting as police officers in other jurisdictions," Schaffer said.

and

And New Jersey Attorney General Jeffrey Chiesa has said he's seen no evidence that the NYPD's efforts violated his state's laws.

11 posted on 07/25/2012 7:08:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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