Posted on 07/23/2012 10:50:35 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama
INDIANAPOLIS -- Penn State football was all but leveled Monday by an NCAA ruling that wiped away 14 years of coach Joe Paterno's victories and imposed a mountain of fines and penalties, crippling a program whose pedophile assistant coach spent uncounted years molesting children, sometimes on university property. The sanctions by the governing body of college sports, which capped eight months of turmoil on the central Pennsylvania campus, stopped short of delivering the "death penalty" of shutting down the sport. But the NCAA hit Penn State with $60 million in fines, ordered it out of the postseason for four years, and will cap scholarships at 20 below the normal limit for four years. The school also will be on probation for five years.
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Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy college football probably because I don’t care who wins or loses, I just enjoy the action. My main point is that the NFL needs to create a minor league system just like baseball, financed either by the league and/or local investors. Let the top high school players who have no interest in school go play for pay in the minor leagues. If that lowers the quality of college football, so what? Quasi-professional football isn’t what college is about.
The real criminal here is PA Governor Tom Corbett,previously in-house legal counsel for waste management, who became attorney general and started the investigation, and then as governor of the state automatically became a PSU Trustee and spearheaded the firing of Paterno. Corbett acted as prosecutor, judge and jury. Wonder how the money will flow back to his cronies? He’s as bad as Slick Eddie...
You have things exactly backwards. The NCAA exists solely as a screen to mitigate the likelihood of government bureaucrats and the courts stepping in to regulate sports.
A veneer of respectability shielding corrution and money laundering.
If the NCAA gets washed away (a possibility) then the replacement is never going to be the institutions regaining unchallenged control of their programs. It will instead be a byzantine labyrinth of government dictates presided over by judges, with court filings at every turn.
So, the NCAA, grandfathered in from a simpler time, or a legal minefield of governmemt regulation.
Those are the only two options.
I have always disagreed with the NCAA dropping the hammer on institutions after the culprits are gone. Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll are an example. They go for the riches of the NFL and leave USC to suffer for the infractions THEY committed.
I want a mechanism to go after the actual culprits. Have coaches and administrators sign an agreement that they will be personally liable for any and all damages arising from their failure to manage, monitor, and control the entity they are responsible for. Destroy the destroyers. Spanier, Curley, and the Paterno estate should be open to lawsuits. They should forfeit any and all pensions and benefits.
The $60,000,000 grab by the NCAA? Why wasn’t it $600,000,000? Because they can build a new organization, hire a staff of well-paid lackeys for $60,000,000 and get away with it. $600,000,000 would be to obvious a grab. If Penn State needs reform, and it does, the NCAA should be next in line.
All I know NOW about Paterno is that as these various trials unfold he will NOT come away with a restored reputation. More likely, and especially now that he is dead, he will be made to look even worse.
One question I have, where was his son Jay Paterno, the Obama supporter, during the evil reign of Sandusky. Are we to believe he knew nothing about what was going on? I believe that he and Mike McQueery were both offensive coaches who worked together. This never came up? Is that possible?
Can’t wait for these trials to commence. All I want is the facts. What is the TRUTH about what happened.
No way. The Catholic Church was way worse and they are still around. Penn State should have fired the people involved....the police should have charged them and then go on. This is insane that this poor football team is getting screws when the Cathlic Church got NOTHING!!!!!
...feel better now, venting your bigotry in full view on a public forum...??? Hmmm? But why stop at the RCC? Why not do due diligence and tar and feather the Protestants who’ve preyed on young children, the public school system which is rife with this problem, the numerous day care centers and foster parents who commit these atrocities behind the scenes? Might make you look appear a little less bigoted (though something tells me that doesn’t register very high on your moral scale)...
...and if you think the Church was not harmed for its iniquity (justly so, in my RCC opinion), and does not continue to be harmed by it...well, not surprising, not surprising in the least...
Lue Holts...
...I take it you’re joking, right...Lue Holts???
Aside from the opportunity to play Penn State in the Pariah Bowl, what POSSIBLE benefit would any school, no matter what their gripes, real or imagined, with the NCAA, get from associating with the Nittany Lepers?
Part of the punishment was that Penn State players could immediately go elsewhere without penalty, or choose to not play football at Penn State yet still receive their scholarship.
...feel better now, venting your bigotry in full view on a public forum...???
As a practicing Catholic, it is my right thank you very much. I think the ridiculous overblown nonsense of this liberal craz that FREEPERS are eating up is sick. There you go...more public forum discussion....your liberalism is showing big time.
Are you serious? Imagine a conference that existed outside the NCAA that contained the likes of, say, Texas, Alabama, Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, Southern Cal, Florida, LSU, Oklahoma and Nebraska.
You want to pay players? No problem. Scholarship limit? None. You want to have a TV contract that rivals the NFL? Great. You want to ensure that there’s no revenue sharing with crap bottom-feeder schools like Minnesota or Baylor? Check.
The NFL-sized revenues would be a pretty nice benefit.
Aside from the opportunity to play Penn State in the Pariah Bowl...
...you’ve come up with a great name for the game between PSU and OSU, on the turf at Beaver Stadium, later on this year...
You have to ask yourself, why haven’t they done that? The reason is that there must be a financial benefit for being a member of the NCAA. What you are proposing is in effect an alternative professional league. What is the track record of those leagues? Not good. The NFL would see you as competition and either crush you or assimilate you as a professional minor league and eliminate your school affiliation.
As a practicing Catholic, it is my right thank you very much..
...as a practicing Catholic, it is your absolute right to criticize the Church as you wish...I know, I do so continuously...which is not the same thing as making idiotic pronouncements about the Church getting away with murder, or feeling no repercussions for its sins, comments which say much more about you than your religious denomination does...
...regarding my liberalism, fine, think what you will...it’s simply another nonsensical comment from you that adds nothing to the discussion...
I'd say the English Premier League has done pretty well, since they told the FA to "take a hike."
I am more interested in your thoughts on this case. You must believe that they are going a bit crazy on this case. Yes some kids got hurt, there was a cover up yes, but if I didn’t know any better, I would think this was the one and only case of child abuse in history. If it were, I would probably agree with this. I think the worst part about it is the FREEPERS wanting the football team completely dismantled. For what? What did those players do? Nothing!!! This story has so much liberalism in it that I can’t believe that conservatives are agreeing with them.
PSU doesn’t like beaver...
again...an asenine question...as if you didn't know, college rosters turn over every 4 yrs...and practically are new teams starter-wise every 3 yrs...under this new standard you propose, the ncaa statute of limitations for punishing teams for violations would be about 3 yrs...perhaps every 2 yrs if a given roster could be proven to have "enough" turnover
Then go ahead and do it. There is a reason why they don’t do it. College football is a very regional sport. Most people outside of the Southeast don’t care about the SEC. Most people outside the Midwest don’t care about the Big 10. Same with the Big 12 or the PAC-12. In the big TV markets in the northeast they don’t care about college football at all. So they would not be gaining anything by leaving the NCAA, they still only retain the same fan base. Unlike the Premiere League they can’t poach the best players from the NFL because they are professional players not college kids. They would then have to become an alternative pro league losing their college affiliation and the track record of pro leagues trying to compete with the NFL is not good.
The Penn State board of trustees should immediately establish the same policy for all students academically...that they transfer minus financial penalty...Just as Penn State will become less competitive athletically, the scandal has likewise seriously devalued a Penn State degree {as in "yard sale" value}...students risk staying at their own reputation-by-association
Your third graph is not only wrong but judgmental of ncaa internal motives that aren’t there...from what I saw on cnn this am...the $ will go toward an endowment ed fund for sexualabuse victims...which means the ncaa costs of having to investigate ped state is being absorbed by ncaa...
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