Obama's Passport Breach: Unanswered Questions and an Unsolved Murder

American Thinker ^ | July 23, 2012 | Pamela Geller

[Flotsam_Jetsome]

I always thought that the perpetrators rifled through Clinton's and McCain's files to make it look as if they were looking for dirt on all three, but that it was Obama's passport records that they were actually interested in accessing. Thus, secondarily, almost as an afterthought, there were "violations" concerning Clinton and McCain. For who stood to gain from a tampering, and why?

There is no way to tell what might have been done to Obama's passport records by those who accessed them. Key information could have been altered or destroyed. On April 8, 2008, after the breach became public, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. The then-candidate said: "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college." Journalist Jake Tapper was surprised and said: "This last part -- a college trip to Pakistan -- was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn't hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign."

[Boogieman]

“The common contact between a hapless thief and a professional team of operatives might have been who in State Department they both got to that allowed it and knew it was going on and got paid to let it happen”

Key words there: “might have been”. In other words, it’s pure, baseless speculation. There is no evidence for any such connection.

In fact, simple logic tells us that it’s very unlikely that such a connection existed. The Brennan employees had access to the passport database themselves, because his company had a contract with the State Dept to process passport applications. Harris, on the other hand, alleged that he had an accomplice in the State Department itself. Since Brennan’s employees had direct access to the passport records themselves, they wouldn’t have had any need to seek out Harris’ alleged accomplice. We have no reason to think they would have even known about Harris’ accomplice in the first place. So, the only reason to assume a connection between them, is if you WANT to find a connection, which is not a good reason at all, if you want to find out the truth of a matter.

[Boogieman]

“On the contrary, I said that perhaps LQH was a Clinton operative.”

Well, there’s no evidence for that either, so why would you assume it?

“So, When the Washington post issues a clarification, should we take that at face value?”

Sure, unless there is some good reason to suspect that it’s not a truthful clarification.

“Could it be that they were “advised” to retract or “clarify?””

Anything “could” be, but speculating about that when there is nor a hint of evidence is not just fruitless, it’s counterproductive.

“Why would 0b0z0 mention the trip to Pakistan 3 days after the passport files’ breach? He must have been forced to do so because NOBODY knew about it then.”

That’s valid speculation, but there’s no need to try to pull in LQH to make sense of that scenario. LQH just makes the story more dramatic, since once he is in the mix, now you have intrigue, murder, and hints of a cover-up. That’s probably why the Washington Post reporter conflated the two cases in the first place, to spice up his article.

[melancholy]

Have you noticed any increase in either missinformation or repetition of old unrelated information when NEW damning info, like the British archive, the Posse report, and the material at the Boston library are released?

I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Where is the "misinformation" in this thread? Please elaborate.

So far, I didn't see any trolls on this thread, do you?

[silverleaf]

Brennan's employees engaged in illegal activity by improperly accessed passport data they were not authorized to access

Plenty of stories published when it happened in 2008

The head of State Department passport section Ann Barret was named in the investigation of unauthorized access and was transferred

Maybe Quarles “unauthorized access” during same time period was a mere.... co inky dink. However he had been named as a cooperating witness in federal investigation of unauthorized passport data access ..... his death may or may not have been a mere co inky dink. It is still unsolved

[zeugma]

Have you noticed any increase in either missinformation or repetition of old unrelated information when NEW damning info, like the British archive, the Posse report, and the material at the Boston library are released?

SOP. The people engaged in this stuff are masters at disinformation.

[melancholy]

““On the contrary, I said that perhaps LQH was a Clinton operative.”

“Well, there’s no evidence for that either, so why would you assume it?”

I said: “One educated guess,........” Am I not allowed to guess?

“So, When the Washington post issues a clarification, should we take that at face value?”

“Sure, unless there is some good reason to suspect that it’s not a truthful clarification.”

You’re entitled to your opinion. Did you think that protecting 0b0z0 would be a good reason?

“Could it be that they were “advised” to retract or “clarify?””

“Anything “could” be, but speculating about that when there is nor a hint of evidence is not just fruitless, it’s counterproductive.”

Wow! “COULD” you “possibly” be wrong? Yet, you allowed me a “ conditional speculation” below:

“That’s valid speculation, but there’s no need to try to pull in LQH to make sense of that scenario.”

It looks to me that we’ll have to agree to disagree.

I’ll leave it at that.

[Boogieman]

“Maybe Quarles “unauthorized access” during same time period was a mere.... co inky dink.”

That’s cute, but why shouldn’t we think it was a coincidence? Is there a single shred of evidence that it was not a coincidence? Without that evidence, then yes it is a coincidence, and all the baseless speculation in the world cannot make it into anything more than a coincidence.

“However he had been named as a cooperating witness in federal investigation of unauthorized passport data access ..... his death may or may not have been a mere co inky dink.”

Yeah, he was cooperating in an investigation... of himself and his own accomplices. That’s not unusual for criminals who get caught. Sure, it was a “federal investigation”, because he committed a federal crime. This wasn’t an investigation into the Brennan case, no matter how dramatic one makes it sound. There is still no evidence to connect Harris and Brennan, or Obama and Harris, or Clinton and Harris, etc. All we have is two unrelated cases that have been conflated by the media and countless speculators after the fact.

[GOPJ]

From the American Thinker's article:

On April 8, 2008, after the breach became public, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. The then-candidate said: "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college." Journalist Jake Tapper was surprised and said: "This last part -- a college trip to Pakistan -- was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn't hear about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign."

Our suck up press - especially the New York Times and Washington Post are so 'absent'...

[Verginius Rufus]

If he was a "Junior" then his grandparents started it by naming his father "Leiutenant."

Major Garrett's parents set their sights higher.

[melancholy]

Our suck up press - especially the New York Times and Washington Post are so 'absent'...

I always believed that the MSM absence, ignorance and laziness are NOT the true description. They KNOW exactly what they're doing by deliberately not covering "certain" news and/or playing dumb.

Case in point, the MSM was very active, creating lies, belligerently asking questions and sending there people to camp around their targets homes and where ever their targets went. CHILDREN weren't spared the intense MSM investigation either!

Examples: Bush and Sarah Palin.

Just a reminder, the MSM was caught red-handed in the "JournOlists" private website scandal...no, we shouldn't cover that...we can't allow this...just call him (Fred Barnes of FOX, IIRC) a racist to put him on the defensive!...

[hoosiermama]

Nope. The point I was trying to make that is whenever NEW material is presented material that has been hashed time and again is presented...This time by Geller.

Beckwith is the authority on the subject as his work is in a national archive. Lucy has been here the longest of the ping list although others preceded her IIRC Starwise, Calpernia. That’s why the question was directed to them and not to you.

Am curious to see if a bloggers release on this topic or any other that might distract from the Posse’s finding, the release of material about the British Archive of Boston Library have a pattern? It certainly does not have DIRECT baring on the new material. Since LT was murdered is it a masked threat or reminder? Or does Pam G have no new info and just want to remain relevant? Is there a pattern?

Since you want to chime in, I’ll ask you, do you see a pattern, have you been following this since 2007-8?....Could she be in her way reminding people to be careful? Are freeper all so busy re hashing the details and reconnecting dots that they don’t see the message or intent?
Look beyond the water flow to the rocks in the bottom.

[LucyT]

. . . . Back to the thread.

Check out FreeRepublic link posted at # 37.

Thanks, maggief. (Interesting old article and comments. Broken link to pdf file @ # 101.)

[little jeremiah]

Everything in the Midstream Media is suspect, without exception, unless otherwise corroborated.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/proof-establishment-media-controlled/

(excerpt, examples at link)

Proof! Establishment media controlled
by Joseph Farah

There was a rather low-key confession made in the New York Times last week that deserves to be blared throughout this country so that every American understands what they are reading in the establishment’s ultra-controlled, government-managed “press” – and I use that last word loosely indeed.

The admission came in the form of a story by Jeremy Peters on the politics page of the Times July 16. I’ve been waiting for others to point it out, discuss it, debate it, express shock and exasperation over it. But I’ve waited for naught.

What this shocking story reveals is that even I – one of the kingpins of the new media and a refugee from the state-controlled spin machine – underestimated the utter and total corruption of the euphemistically called “mainstream press.”

It shows that most – not some – members of the print media establishment with access to the White House submit their copy to government officials for review, “correction” and approval before it reaches the American people!

[melancholy]

Since you want to chime in, I’ll ask you, do you see a pattern, have you been following this since 2007-8?....

I'm happy that you allowed me to "chime in." Go to my posting history and find out for yourself, maybe I'm a n00b on the subject.

FReepers are free to discuss what they see fit according to the site rules. This is not the first time that you tried to control what FReepers talk about on these threads and it seems it won't be the last.

You attacked very well respected FReepers for no reason other than they talked about other than what you decided was important to you. IIRC, the FReepers were Fred Nerks and little jeremiah.

I'll not allow this to descend to the type of back and forth of a couple of days ago or take part on tearing up the threads. Therefore, here's a polite way of going about it:

After this post, I'll not ping you any more and I'll expect the same from you. The last word is yours, if you wish. Thank you.

[DrDude]

I don’t have a link but maybe someone else does. Didn’t Obama say he just finished off paying back his college loans? It may have been when he was a senator that he finished paying(his claim). I can’t imagine this guy took 20 years to pay off college loans when he was buying an expensive property in Chicago and Moochie was making a huge salary for a no show job. Any thoughts?

[Greenperson]

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/passportgate-a-history/

For what it’s worth. A long history of the passport breach with a lot of links.

[Hotlanta Mike]

A 2nd degree contact by virtue of the fact that LQH was acquiring personal data from an employee of the security group that Ex-CIA officer John Brennan was heading....the murder of of LQH like so many connected to Obama is another instance of tying up loose ends.

[bluecat6]

Milestones of the period:
3/12/2008 Date in EXIF timestamp in Fact Check COLB photos
3/14/2008 Last of 3 passport breakins
3/22/2008 Newsweek publishes article - When Barry become Barak
3/22/2008 CNN runs article indicating Brennan is tied to pasport break in
3/25/2008 LT Harris Junior is stopped by police and arrested.
4/5/2008 Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigns.
4/8/2008 Obama admits for the first time in public that he visited Pakistan while in college in 1981.
4/8/2008 Seattle times runs article acknowledging SAD lived in Seattle in 1962. But ignores 1961 enrollment in UW.
4/10/2008 SR 511 Introduced to Senate for first time
4/17/2008 LT Harris Junior is murdered at 2800 block of 12th Street NE.

Remember the original FACT CHECK photos in their born in the USA article had the 3/12/2008 date in the EXIF data.

[little jeremiah]

Just one of those strange coincidences that have accompanied 0kaka’s life since he was born (whenever and wherever that occured...).

[STARWISE]

There are MULTIPLE fronts, multiple tumors and metatastic origins and offshoots involved in this vicious and virulent cancer, and I don’t consider any research ... new, speculative, repetitive (it reminds those of us without superhuman computer brains and perfect memories of the huge #’s of past discoveries in this maze of endless passages) ... to be worthy of being branded in the prejorative manner I’ve recently seen tossed out here lately.

There’s Sheriff Joe and the Posse looking at the HI documentation and ridiculous record keeping history, and they’re doing really courageous, determined work.

And there are also other fronts worthy of research .. especially in light of this massive a conspiracy.

I was taken aback and I’m offended at the surprisingly inflammatory, rather haughtily implied suspicion directed at FredNerks, a longtime intrepid researcher and valuable contributor, who’s done immense and illuminating work here for years, laboring relentlessly to uncover the mysteries, mazes, facades and roadblocks intentionally placed by our real enemies. It is totally out of line, totally undeserved from my years of observations and opinion, and in my view deserves an apology.

We’re not perfect, and it’s understandable to lash out from frustration when we’re all weary, infuriated, anxious, sick of the whole damn mess, but I’d hope we’d be better folks than implying suspicion or questionable motives now on someone who’s documented to have worked and researched the issue for so long (the actual facts and truth of which are purposely and insidiously being blocked from public disclosure).

As Rumsfeld said: we don’t know what we don’t know.

There’s enough worry for us all figuring out how to survive and defeat being assigned peon status to the vile imperialist .. we needn’t foment division, cast baseless aspersions and eat our own.

God bless and protect us all.