Marine Corps creates law enforcement battalions

Associated Press ^ | Jul 22, 5:33 PM EDT | JULIE WATSON

[Steve Newton]

You do know that if that happens it will be our fault? We our fathers passed down freedom to us. It is our duty to pass it down to the next generation.

[NY Attitude]

Posse comitatus forbids the Army from being involved in domestic law enforcement. It does not cover Marines. Nor does it cover militarized fed law enforcement.

Wasn't the 101st Airborne Division used to quell the riots in Watts, CA after the National Guard could not do it? Also, I do believe that General Wesley Clarke and at least 1 tank was used at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

[glorgau]

Team America - World Police. Nuff said.

[immadashell]

For those who like me, are a little skitish about domestic uses of the armed forces. At first, I thought, Oh great! Gestapo.

The Posse Comitatus Act Section 1385 of Title 18, United States Code (USC), states:

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.

The United States Congress has enacted a number of exceptions to the PCA that allow the military, in certain situations, to assist civilian law enforcement agencies in enforcing the laws of the U.S. The most common example is counterdrug assistance (Title 10 USC, Sections 371-381). Other examples include:

•The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.

•Assistance in the case of crimes involving nuclear materials (Title 18 USC, Section 831). This statute permits DoD personnel to assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding nuclear materials, when the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies.

•Emergency situations involving chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction (Title 10 USC, Section 382). When the attorney general and the secretary of defense jointly determine that an “emergency situation” exists that poses a serious threat to U.S. interests and is beyond the capability of civilian law enforcement agencies. DoD personnel may assist the Justice Department in enforcing prohibitions regarding biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction.

Military support to civilian law enforcement is carried out in strict compliance with the Constitution and U.S. laws and under the direction of the president and secretary of defense.

[knarf]

I personally don't give a shit, as long as they sign off on our guys killing the enemy as a matter of warfare and they stand up against the the president, the congress, the UN, the NWO, the LMNOP, and whatever other alphabet soup agency may want to sissify us with.

[clintonh8r]

General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you, now that we need you?

[RIghtwardHo]

Long as they don’t deploy them here.

[Delta 21]

"The Insurrection Act (Title 10 USC, Sections 331-335). This act allows the president to use U.S. military personnel at the request of a state legislature or governor to suppress insurrections. It also allows the president to use federal troops to enforce federal laws when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S."

Who exactly determines when rebellion against the authority of the U.S. makes it impracticable to enforce the laws of the U.S.?

The Chief Executive Officer??

[Iron Munro]

This is an ominous development.

The Marine Corps is not a police force.

[combat_boots]

F# Yeah!

Our USMC should not be so degraded. Let other countries and their sordid, rat-infested, corrupt police departments work their own crimes.

[familyop]

"Wasn't the 101st Airborne Division used to quell the riots in Watts, CA after the National Guard could not do it? Also, I do believe that General Wesley Clarke and at least 1 tank was used at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas."

One was a riot (an insurrection). The other was not. And the best prevention against guerrilla warfare is good and moral government. We should not be taking our lessons from tourists who favor their subservient little reservations in third world slum countries.

[QT3.14]

I wonder how the ethnic and homosexual makeup of these units will compare to the USMC overall?

Just speculation on my part. I could be wrong.

[NY Attitude]

The Bill Clinton Presidency was a good and moral government?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I met a New Zealander a few years back who was a US Marine. He claimed that the US military recruited English-speaking non-citizens to get around Posse Comitatus. He claimed to have been involved in all sorts of domestic shenanigans.

There are a lot of possibilities there, none of them good.

[familyop]

"The Bill Clinton Presidency was a good and moral government?"

No. It wasn't. What I said.

The Hillary Clinton presidency with her First Lady, Bill "Howdy Doody" Clinton, though, did resemble the politics of New York, California and Soviet Moscow.

A good nation will not be controlled by eliminations of freedoms, intensified surveillance against its citizens and social pathologies forced on it by the spoiled effete. It can only be well administered by good (as in moral) government.

We haven't seen government based on morality for a long time. And yes. It once was, contrary to blatherings about Rome from immoral attorneys.

[TheGunny]

BS!

[NY Attitude]

I do agree with you regarding the lack of morality in government. It is truly sad.

[Iron Munro]

Posse comitatus act defined.

As if Barack Obama cared one little bit about the law of the land.

[Cvengr]

MPs can’t even grasp the Traffic Codes/Vehicle Codes.

A waste of manpower.

[familyop]

Thank you.