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1 posted on 07/22/2012 8:32:38 AM PDT by John W
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Homos’ bring down a great school, very sad. Hope the penlites are aimed at the entire school/athletic department and not just the football team. Total NCAA ban for 5 years, all sports, womens too. Penn State will never recover from this scandal I would not be surprised if it was booted from its conference.


46 posted on 07/22/2012 9:17:47 AM PDT by jpsb
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Good! I hope the report is true.


49 posted on 07/22/2012 9:21:01 AM PDT by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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53 posted on 07/22/2012 9:27:43 AM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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Really two issues: One is Penn State, the other is college football.

The Penn State side of the issue is fundamentally the same as any other non conformance with significant rules regulating conduct in order to enhance the competitive capability of the football program. When the non compliance is serious, so is the penalty; when non compliance is very serious, the death penalty is imposed.

This is the classic death penalty case. For the reason that the violation involved not only one or two people making bad decisions but rather a number of individuals, both within the football program and in the University Administration.

And in this case, unlike other institutional sports violations, a bunch of young men were really injured for life.

In fact, the most serious violation, involves people in the college administration who knew and did not act. Much like the Southern Methodist death penalty case some years ago. I don't really see any reason Penn State should not get the death penalty for all sports.

There really isn't any reason for the Colleges and Universities to be in the professional entertainment business at all. In theory, some of the top programs make a profit. In fact, a careful forensic accounting would demonstrate that most university's lose money on sports entertainment program and many of them lose a significant amount.

And the sports focus deteriorates from the primary mission of education. Under circumstances where most schools, particularly the football factories, are doing a really poor job in the education environment.

And the young people who are involved as actors are being exploited. Although in theory, they get an education, facts are that the programs exist only for the purpose of enhancing the program and the people who run it; so when the performer is no longer useful to the program, the education is also over. Scholarships for fifth year players who were unable to obtain their degree in four years because of the demands of the program are routinely cut off.

It is really time to bring an end to intercollegiate athletics.

55 posted on 07/22/2012 9:31:02 AM PDT by David
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According to an article by a Penn State Alumnus on the board of trustees, that is where the problem lies. About 20 members of the board but run by a core group of 4 or 5 who rule absolutely! It always pays to look at the culture that is created by the top. The US Government is a good example. The president is a lie himself and has installed a group of liars and incompetents in his cabinet.

The “czars” are more of the same.


58 posted on 07/22/2012 9:34:46 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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I have been for the death penalty ever since the allegations surfaced, but now I’m not so sure. A five year ban from all bowl games and no new scholarships during that timeframe would be very effective.

All current players could play out their scholarships (I would also support penalty-free transfers) and the program would have to “restart” with what are essentially walk ons. It would allow students to cheer on a team completely untainted by scandal and force the administration to foster a toned-down environment in which athletics are an ancillary experience of higher education, not its raison de etre.


74 posted on 07/22/2012 9:58:41 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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Maybe Penn State should be sold off to the University of Phoenix as a new satellite campus. :)


75 posted on 07/22/2012 9:58:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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What are they going to do? Take away their TV privileges for a month?


84 posted on 07/22/2012 10:09:46 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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For those of us who are big college lacrosse fans there is a really interesting side story at play here if Penn State sports in general gets the death penalty.

A couple of years ago Jeff Tambroni left his position at Cornell as head coach, where he enjoyed tremendous success to take the head coaching position at Penn State. He would have not done this (Cornell was the more prestigious lacrosse program) except for the fact that his wife was offered the head field hockey position and he decided to move with her since she had sacrificed for him earlier in going to Ithaca and turning down other coaching offers (the wife graduated PSU and was an All American in field hockey so this was her dream job).

Right now that decision looks pretty tenuous. If the death penalty comes down on the entire athletic department both could face a loss of income as well as having to represent a toxic future recruiting environment.

When I watch tomorrow’s announcement part of me will be looking at this side story.


90 posted on 07/22/2012 10:12:22 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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This form of punishment is akin to that of your 3rd grade teacher when she punished the entire class for one paper airplane. Totally unfair to thousands of people who had zilch to do with this. Prosecute those who knew. Fine them. Tar and Feather them, whatever. Why stick it to the whole state?!


101 posted on 07/22/2012 10:30:22 AM PDT by albie
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I agree that people should be held accountable but what did the students and athletics, who had no clue what was going on, do to deserve to be punish along with those who are responsible?


117 posted on 07/22/2012 10:48:43 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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If a professor of Physics were a child buggerer would the close the department and fire it’s chairman?


118 posted on 07/22/2012 10:48:43 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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I seem to remember Penn state's president declaring his goal was to make Happy Valley the most gay friendly campus in the nation

It seems he didn't have mush work to do

I wonder if that is in part why this was allowed to go on and on?

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144 posted on 07/22/2012 12:12:38 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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149 posted on 07/22/2012 12:29:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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