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Penn State To Remove Paterno Statue This Weekend
WFAN ^ | 7-20-2012 | Kim Jones

Posted on 07/20/2012 11:12:53 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

NEW YORK (WFAN) – It seems the fate of Joe Paterno’s statue at Penn State has been sealed.

“Am told that Penn State plans to take down the Paterno statue this weekend,” Kim Jones of the NFL Network and WFAN reported via Twitter on Friday.

Paterno, fired by the university last year amid the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal, died in January. His legacy was further tarnished by a scathing report released last week by former FBI director Louis Freeh.

The Freeh report accused the former coach and other university officials of “repeatedly” concealing “critical facts relating to Sandusky’s child abuse” in order to avoid bad publicity.

Many have since called for the removal of Paterno’s likeness in front of Beaver Stadium. A banner even flew above Penn State this week with the message, “Take the statue down or we will.”

Sandusky was convicted in June on 45 of 48 counts of sexual abuse against 10 boys, some within PSU’s athletic facilities.

The Paterno family plans to launch its own investigation in the wake of the Freeh report.

“The announcement of the findings by the Freeh Group is yet another shocking turn of events in this crisis,” the family said in a statement Monday. “We are dismayed by, and vehemently disagree with, some of the conclusions and assertions and the process by which they were developed. Mr. Freeh presented his opinions and interpretations as if they were absolute facts. We believe numerous issues in the report, and his commentary, bear further review.

“Our interest has been and remains the uncovering of the truth.”


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KEYWORDS: paterno; pedophilia; pennstate
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To: Yorlik803
You sir are 100% spot on with that post.
61 posted on 07/20/2012 1:02:09 PM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Scoutmaster
OK, thanks for the clarification.

However, I still say Penn State will bow to public pressure and move the statue.

62 posted on 07/20/2012 1:05:18 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Scoutmaster

Getting that board of trustees to arrive at a decision is like hearding cats. I expect that Spanier & his predecessors spent most of their time just trying to achieve a consensus. One thing is for darn sure: the Trustess weren’t looking over Spanier’s shoulder any more than Spanier was looking over Paterno’s.

Now everybody is running for the tall grass. One of the Trustees announced his resignation yesterday.


63 posted on 07/20/2012 1:05:52 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

They should just throw a blanket over the statue. They’ll have no problem doing it. They know how to cover things up at PSU!


64 posted on 07/20/2012 1:20:24 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Excellent idea!


65 posted on 07/20/2012 1:48:56 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Yorlik803
And again I want to reiterate. That Paterno ruined solely his legacy. It's a shame JoePa willingly enabled boys to be molested by a monster and by doing that he destroyed his legacy and may have guaranteed himself a spot in hell. Imagine what would happened if he had reported this when it happened. Odds would be that that statue would still be there, and that his name would still be on the Big Ten trophy. It saddens part of me because as a Big Ten alum I used to think Paterno was a great coach and a great figure in football.
66 posted on 07/20/2012 1:59:23 PM PDT by erod (This Chicagoan will crawl over broken glass to vote the fake Chicagoan Obama out!)
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To: Sir Napsalot
It's a shame that Joe Paterno did not live long enough to see his statue removed and his "legacy" destroyed.

Legacy indeed. The guy coached football. Why we lionize these people in the first place is beyond me.

67 posted on 07/20/2012 2:04:26 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

To too many people football is almost a damn religion. It’s a game and to my lights, not a particularly interesting game.


68 posted on 07/20/2012 2:15:59 PM PDT by OldPossum ( "it's" is the contraction of either "it is" or "it has"; "its" is the possessive pronoun)
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To: OldPossum
To too many people football is almost a damn religion.

No it's not. (I said as I'm wearing my Florida Gator underwear)

69 posted on 07/20/2012 2:17:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

Nah.....melt it down for the scrap metal. may as well make a buck.......


70 posted on 07/20/2012 2:18:25 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Conservative_Rob; dfwgator; Colofornian
If you were to follow the entire Sandusky timeline, you would find that he was accused of similar sexual child abuse in the past, and was cleared of all charges.

I wouldn't say he was 'cleared of all charges.'

First, I think you need to understand the 1998 charges and some reasons why the assistant district attorney decided to drop charges at the time (which isn't the same as being 'cleared of all charges')>

Second, you may not be aware of all that's been uncovered since November 2011 of Penn State's roll in making certain Jerry Sandusky wasn't charged in 1998.

First, the 1998 charges involved showering - simply showering - with two boys. One boy (later known as Victim 6) came home from an outing with Sandusky with wet hair and admitted he had showered with Sandusky. Sandusky bear hugged the boy and gave him a shampoo. There was no touching of genitals, no oral sex, no anal sex, no manual sexual contact. Police located a second boy who had experienced the same (but prosecutors couldn't located him again for the recent trial).

From the beginning, that makes 1998 different. The only way to successfully prosecute Sandusky was to prove that he showered with the boy for his (Sandusky's) sexual gratification, because there were no overt sexual acts.

Considering Sandusky was the acting defensive coordinator for Penn State (and had been for 20 years) and had been a Penn State coach for 30 years, and the case had to be tried before a Happy Valley jury, the assistant district attorney knew she was facing a difficult task. We've seen how Happy Valley views Penn State football and coaches. Imagine trying to convict the Hero of The Second Mile and an acting Penn State defensive coordinator for . . . showering with a boy. Especially when, according to the testimony of two Penn State coaches during Sandusky's trial, other coaches considered showering with children to be 'normal.'

A representative of child welfare services was involved in the decision not to prosecute Jerry Sandusky after reading one psychological report on him. The assistant district attorney made a decision that she couldn't win her case in front of a Happy Valley Jury, not that Sandusky was "cleared of all charges."

However, since 1998 - and specifically since November 2011 - we've discovered that after the Penn State police and the State College police FIRST listened in on the call between Jerry Sandusky and the victim's mother, and BEFORE the second time the police listened into the SECOND call between Jerry Sandusky and the mother, Joe Paterno, Gary Schultz, and Tim Curley were notified of the investigation. The Freeh report details emails between them (and yes, Paterno used email) discussing the investigation. We now know that the Esquire article detailing how Paterno cut short a fund-raising trip immediately after the 1998 investigation began, then canceled a family vacation, and canceled all other trips until after it was determined that Sandusky would not be charged, appears almost certainly tied to his involvement in the investigation.

What impact did Penn State have on the investigation?

First, Penn State police had two - two - psychological reports on Jerry Sandusky. One said that he had tendencies as a pedophile. That report was not turned over to Pennsylvania child welfare or the assistant district attorney. It's reasonable to assume that Paterno, Schulz, and Curley had a hand in making certain that report was not turned over.

Second, there was a telling statement made by the nephew of Ray Gricar, the district attorney overseeing the 1998 case. When Gricar was officially declared dead because he had been missing for seven years, Gricar's nephew said Gricar had always had a sour taste in his mouth because he felt that Penn State football had stonewalled the 1998 investigation into Sandusky.

So, no, I don't think showering is 'similar sexual abuse' to anal rape. I don't think Sandusky was cleared of charges in 1998. Finally, I think we've found out a lot - particularly Penn State's withholding of the report on Sandusky indicating that he had tendencies as a pedophile - that helps explain the decision not to prosecute in 1998.

71 posted on 07/20/2012 2:51:00 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: vette6387
You have no idea how close you may be....

Regarde:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/72798819/JOE-PATERNO-S-ORGANIZED-CRIME-CONNECTIONS


72 posted on 07/20/2012 2:53:36 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: vette6387
"At the end of the day Joe Pa was just another grifter."



Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
73 posted on 07/20/2012 3:03:51 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Shut down Penn State. Get rid of it.


74 posted on 07/20/2012 3:04:31 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: lacrew

Or they could take the statue to the library to remind everyone to be silent.


75 posted on 07/20/2012 3:08:40 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Fast & Furious: Proof the Government should not have access to guns)
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To: bill1952

Even paterno said he wished he had done more . . .


76 posted on 07/20/2012 3:18:30 PM PDT by pilipo (GOP=Gutless Old Party)
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To: ex-snook

I’ve read this but no details. How did Paterno repeatedly conceal? Anyone got any reference?

In 2001, when AD Tim Curley talked to Joe what to do about Sandusky Curley wrote to PSU Prez Spanier that Joe didn’t want to report it to the police. Joe officially knew as early as 1998 when he told Sandusky he was no longer the heir apparent and allowed him to retire. I have read Joe knew as early as the mid-70’s about Sandusky’s problem.

In 2004, when Spainer, Chmn. of BoT and 2 other high ranking officials asked Joe to retire and he told them no. You know you have a problem.


77 posted on 07/20/2012 4:36:47 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Tallguy

It’s hard for me to believe at least that Jay Paterno didn’t know he was an assistant at PSU for 17 years and was a player on the team too.


78 posted on 07/20/2012 4:45:58 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Paterno was guilty of willful blindness and Sandusky was a low-level pedophile.

The big Gay mafia criminals are getting off scot-free. That is the un-prosecuted undisclosed scandal here.

... the homo-agenda rocks on.

79 posted on 07/20/2012 4:50:35 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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