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Doherty wants to raise taxes by 29 percent immediately and by as much as 78 percent over the next three years, while the council wants the city to borrow money.
1 posted on 07/14/2012 11:18:48 AM PDT by dragnet2
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Inept city management, with public union wages and benefits at the heart of it, killed Scranton.

What a shock!

2 posted on 07/14/2012 11:20:09 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Isn’t Scranton where Joe Biden reminded us over and over about his supposedly blue collar roots during the 2008 campaign? No wonder he’s distancing himself from that message this time.


3 posted on 07/14/2012 11:23:06 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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>> The firefighters’ union, along with the police and public works unions, have taken the city to court.

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to make sure every citizen is armed with a shotgun, and a few locals could volunteer to man the engines and hoses?


4 posted on 07/14/2012 11:25:25 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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Doherty wants to raise taxes by 29 percent immediately and by as much as 78 percent over the next three years, while the council wants the city to borrow money.

I'm sure taxpayers are breaking the door down and begging Scranton to do this.

After all, taxpayers are compassionate for rich government workers unions.

5 posted on 07/14/2012 11:27:40 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Where’s the link to the article?


6 posted on 07/14/2012 11:27:53 AM PDT by econjack
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This is the only pleasure I will get out of the collapse. Watching all these government workers who think they can retire at 40 and collect pensions get NADA. I work with a lady whose father collects two full pensions from two different public NYC unions he worked for..


7 posted on 07/14/2012 11:30:29 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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Imagine, the city mayor wants you to pay them in taxes, almost twice what you are paying them now in 3 years, just so the unions can keep getting their exhorbant benefits/pensions/pay raises.

What happens in a few years when this tax increase is insufficent?


8 posted on 07/14/2012 11:30:29 AM PDT by rawhide
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There was a story about this a few days ago.

Average household income in Scranton is $29K/yr.

Average cop salary is almost $70K/yr. Average fireman salary is $65K/yr.

The city has lost half it’s population in the last 40 years, but it’s government is the same size if not bigger.


10 posted on 07/14/2012 11:35:23 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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Nice set-up to squeeze one more season out of The Office?
12 posted on 07/14/2012 11:38:03 AM PDT by x
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liberal progressive communism comes at a price... Scranton just received their first bill.

LLS

16 posted on 07/14/2012 11:51:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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I'm torn between a city being able to enter into bankruptcy and denial of that option entirely. Placing a court in charge of a city government usurps the electoral process - a likely better solution would be to dissolve the city. Any ‘city’ assets can be seized for debt, the local laws expire, and the city boundaries simply revert to unincorporated county territory.

The problems with both options is that it denies the public a voice in the process. A more optimal system would kick in well before this point. When a structural deficit comes into a city budget, an election kicks in - a referendum where the council must present a budget that is in balance, against opposing options presented by others. If no one steps forward to oppose, then it will be the city council vs the city being dissolved.

In this case, as well as the case of San Bernardino, Stockton and others, we're well beyond that point. “No taxation without representation” was a founding cry of this country. I dread the day when lawyers are the only ones who are permitted to speak in opposition to taxes.

18 posted on 07/14/2012 11:57:29 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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So this article gives some info on what happens when a city files a Chapter 9 bankruptcy. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2005/10/what_happens_when_a_city_goes_bankrupt.html

My question is what is the downside to doing this. The cities assets can’t be liquidated, they can still borrow money. All they have to do to get the chap 9 approved is show they cant pay their debts and that they want to eventually pay them off.

What really happens when a city does this?


19 posted on 07/14/2012 12:00:22 PM PDT by eak3
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Now wonder Michael Scott left


20 posted on 07/14/2012 12:01:47 PM PDT by Diggity
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By not declaring bankruptcy he can then funnel what cash they have to favored suppliers and contractors and away from the union thugs, but in BK the employees get first dibs.


21 posted on 07/14/2012 12:02:39 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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I discovered that Mayor Chris Doherty is a member of the democrat party. No sympathy.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 12:27:32 PM PDT by soycd
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Gee...ain’t that a shame...

A Democrat-controlled city...Democrat-controlled unions...bankrupted by Democrats...

Now the union boys get to feel the same pain as everyone else.

Sucks don’t it?

Cry me a river.


28 posted on 07/14/2012 12:33:52 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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Spokesman Michael Scott making the announcement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuGIgf-ICHM


29 posted on 07/14/2012 12:35:45 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Democrats are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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There’s no problem here that can’t be solved by replacing the current crop of politicians with conservatives. It will be a lot cheaper than the alternatives, none of which will work.


31 posted on 07/14/2012 12:54:27 PM PDT by pallis
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here is the link =

http://www.businessinsider.com/scranton-mayor-slashes-all-public-worker-wages-2012-7


32 posted on 07/14/2012 12:57:30 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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The federal government would be broke if it didn't have the ability to just create money. Someday the dollar will no longer be the world's reserve currency and when that happens you don't want to be in any urban areas in this country.
34 posted on 07/14/2012 1:25:29 PM PDT by pterional
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